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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: WM and end segments... Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 14:20:48 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: <v7mifg$qehd$1@dont-email.me> References: <v7jrk4$7rnq$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 23:20:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e5e0901eabcdb6107cf2334f05523c53"; logging-data="866861"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5THpqd+DIEuRTPFkGH4rxdXv6VWAnDlM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vVmCjuM0aidOuIk2JpbNKx50SAA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v7jrk4$7rnq$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2833 On 7/21/2024 1:38 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > For some damn reason when I hear end segments from WM I think of a tree. > Take the following infinite 2-ary tree that holds the positive integers: > ___________________________________________ > 0 > / \ > / \ > / \ > / \ > 1 2 > / \ / \ > / \ / \ > 3 4 5 6 > / \ / \ / \ / \ > ......................... > ___________________________________________ [...] To get at a parent node from any node, root 0 is "special" here...: 1 = ceil(1/2) - 1 = 0 2 = ceil(2/2) - 1 = 0 3 = ceil(3/2) - 1 = 1 4 = ceil(4/2) - 1 = 1 5 = ceil(5/2) - 1 = 2 6 = ceil(6/2) - 1 = 2 On the mirror side: (-1) (-2) \ / 0 / \ (+1) (+2) The parent of -1 and -2 should be zero wrt the negative side: -1 = floor(-1/2) + 1 = 0 -2 = floor(-2/2) + 1 = 0 good. Now, the parent of say, -3 and -4 should be -1: (-3) (-4) \ / (-1) (-2) \ / 0 / \ (+1) (+2) -3 = floor(-3/2) + 1 = -1 -4 = floor(-4/2) + 1 = -1 the parent of -5 and -6 should be -2: -5 = floor(-5/2) + 1 = -2 -6 = floor(-6/2) + 1 = -2 Seems to work okay, the root node is interesting here, makes me think of signed zero... :^) Wrt ceil: this is right, but they are is children not its parents... 0 = ceil(0/2) - 1 = -1 0 = ceil(0/2) - 2 = -2 lol? Humm...