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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Hungary 2024 - Piastri/Norris
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 23:15:14 -0700
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On 2024-07-22 19:50, Geoff wrote:
> On 23/07/2024 7:23 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-07-22 00:14, Sir Tim wrote:
>>> Geoff <geoff@geoffwood.org> wrote:
>>>> The call to swap places was fair enough, given that calling PIA in 
>>>> was a
>>>> team tactic.
>>>>
>>>> But I reckon NOR shot himself in the foot by not letting PIA past at 
>>>> the
>>>> earliest opportunity. If he had, he would have had more laps in 
>>>> which to
>>>>   potentially overtake him and win the race.
>>>
>>> Difficult to imagine this sort of situation arising when Ron Dennis 
>>> was in
>>> charge (also difficult to imagine Schumacher/Senna/Vettel complying).
>>>
>>> Given that Norris is well ahead of Piastri in the WDC, McLaren should 
>>> have
>>> let Lando win. Tough on Oscar, but F1 is a tough sport and his day will
>>> come.
>>>
>>> With McLaren apparently dominant it is not beyond the bounds of 
>>> possibility
>>> that Norris could win the WDC - I just hope he doesn’t miss out by less
>>> than 7 points
>>>
>>
>> Based on what I read of Norris's remarks after the race, I think there 
>> was pretty clearly an agreement between the two drivers that if one of 
>> them was ahead at some still-unknown earlier point in the race, then 
>> that driver would get the win.
> 
> Yeah but from lap 44 (was it) of 70 ?!!! Plenty of opportunity for real 
> racing between them both after that and for NOR to potentially regain 
> his place, if the could ...
> 
> geoff
> 

Team orders have been a part of F1 since forever.

Teams make these agreements to make sure their drivers don't take each 
other out.

I don't know for certain if there was an agreement or what it was, but 
if there WAS an agreement, then Norris should be applauded for living up 
to his agreements.