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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Analytic Truth-makers Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 11:50:22 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 29 Message-ID: <v7nqse$14r0g$1@dont-email.me> References: <v7m26d$nrr4$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 10:50:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="02234f129a80b5c5c3fdb3e7f62086ab"; logging-data="1207312"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ksSUt/q7KlmarUTVg4WGT" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:mcoJVxtA4GZZicFRIhBEZLierYY= Bytes: 2059 On 2024-07-22 16:42:53 +0000, olcott said: > I have focused on analytic truth-makers where an expression of language > x is shown to be true in language L by a sequence of truth preserving > operations from the semantic meaning of x in L to x in L. The phrase "true in language L" is not good. Truth is not really a feature of language. The term "language L" is itself ambiguous: sometimes some semantics is included, sometimes not. > In rare cases such as the Goldbach conjecture this may require an > infinite sequence of truth preserving operations thus making analytic > knowledge a subset of analytic truth. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach%27s_conjecture One must be caeful with infinite sequences. Sometimes a pair of semi- infinite sequences, one without an end and the other without a beginnig, may look like a sequence without being one. > There are cases where there is no finite or infinite sequence of > truth preserving operations to x or ~x in L because x is self- > contradictory in L. In this case x is not a truth-bearer in L. And it may be the case that it is not know whether such sequence exists and there is no way to find out. -- Mikko