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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Colnago C60
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 10:39:43 -0400
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On 7/23/2024 10:02 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 7/23/2024 6:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 7/22/2024 5:48 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2024 4:08 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> On Mon Jul 22 15:49:08 2024 AMuzi  wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/2024 2:25 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>> Has anyone actuzlly seen a failed Colnago C60 frmeset?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://ruckuscomp.com/news/featured-repair/2016/11/30/colnago-c60-seatstay-and-dropout-repair/
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering why the pros use the V4R rather than the super 
>>>> expensive C60.
>>>
>>> [raises hand]
>>> Because that's what the sponsor supplied.  If a rider strongly 
>>> prefers something else, it will have paint and graphics just like the 
>>> sponsor's other bikes.
>>>
>>
>> Not only that....
>>
>> https://www.colnago.com/en/premium-bikes/c68-road-bike
>>
>> "the V4Rs is a bike designed and optimised for use by professional 
>> racers. More rigid and lighter, it suits highly powerful racers with 
>> extremely flexible muscles and joints. The C68, on the other hand, is 
>> designed for maximum riding pleasure: a snappy and responsive bike 
>> that calls for speed, with the perfect balance that a racing bike 
>> should have between enjoyment and performance."
>>
>>
> 
> That's an excellent example of bicycle ad copy, "Rigid, yet flexible!"

I interpreted it differently. It seems the suggestion is that the VR4 is 
lighter and stiffer, optimized for those professionals who are 
themselves "extremely flexible", rather than your average middle-aged 
weekend warrior with $12K of disposable income who might consider the 
ride extremely harsh because they _aren't_ "extremely flexible".

Anecdote- I managed to purchase a 1st generation Scott CR-1 (Saunier 
Duval Team Model) from one of those middle-aged weekend warriors  in 
about 2007. He didn't race, and his complaint was that it was too 
twitchy and harsh, especially compared to his Colnago C40 he had at the 
time as well. I fell in love with it from the first ride and raced it 
for over ten years, quite possibly the best bike I've ever ridden.


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