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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_G=c3=b6del's_Basic_Logic_Course_at_Notre_Dame_=28Was:?= =?UTF-8?Q?_Analytic_Truth-makers=29?= Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 22:52:31 +0200 Message-ID: <v7p56d$8buo$1@solani.org> References: <v7m26d$nrr4$1@dont-email.me> <e41a2d324173031e1fe47acc0fd69b94b7aba55e@i2pn2.org> <v7msg0$sepk$1@dont-email.me> <3fb77583036a3c8b0db4b77610fb4bf4214c9c23@i2pn2.org> <v7much$sepk$2@dont-email.me> <9577ce80fd6c8a3d5dc37b880ce35a4d10d12a0e@i2pn2.org> <v7n3ho$t590$1@dont-email.me> <7d9b88425623e1166e358f1bce4c3a2767c36da0@i2pn2.org> <v7naae$120r5$1@dont-email.me> <v7o64d$7r0l$1@solani.org> <v7ogdr$17h8r$9@dont-email.me> <v7p499$8bb2$5@solani.org> <v7p4mt$8bl4$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 20:52:29 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="274392"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:dwEzH72WMH5QRT+4Ag3DM8hRq0Q= In-Reply-To: <v7p4mt$8bl4$1@solani.org> X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXQGyRcxTW/09YgqCzcxPcEHRfocpS7utJJ8f6eVuvw3B9CgvINmcEo8Q6rqHd1S3GD1egFcU= Bytes: 3314 Lines: 58 In Montague Semantics the bivalance principle is expressed by the type "prop". You find that in the intial definition of Montague: > 2 Intensional Logic > By ME_a is understood rhe set of meaningful expresions of type a > 1. Every variable and constant of type a is ME_a. https://www.cs.rhul.ac.uk/~zhaohui/montague73.pdf If I am not mistaken then Montague simply uses the letter "t" for the type "prop". Mild Shock schrieb: > Of course you can restrict yourself to > only so called "decidable" sentences A, > > i.e. sentences A where: > > True(L,A) v True(L,~A) > > But this doesn't mean that all sentences > are decidable, if the language allows for > example at least one propositional variables p, > > then you have aleady an example of an > undecidable sentences, you even don't > need anything Gödel, Russell, or who knows > > what, all you need is bivalence, which was > already postualated by Aristoteles. > > Principle of bivalence > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_bivalence > > if you assume that a propostional variable > is "variably", meaning it can take different truth > values depending on different possible worlds, > > or state of affairs, or valuations, or how ever > you want to call it. Then a propositional variable > is the prime example of an undecided sentence. > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Thats a little bit odd to abolish incompletness. >> Take p, an arbitrary propositional variable. >> Its neither the case that: >> >> True(L,p) >> >> Nor is ihe case that: >> >> True(L,~p) >> >> Because there are always at least two possible worlds. >> One possible world where p is false, making True(L,p) >> impossible, and one possible world where p is true, >> >> making True(L,~p) impossible.