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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Hungary 2024 - Piastri/Norris
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 17:06:25 -0700
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On 2024-07-23 13:25, Phil Carmody wrote:
> Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> Geoff <geoff@geoffwood.org> wrote:
>>> The call to swap places was fair enough, given that calling PIA in was a
>>> team tactic.
>>>
>>> But I reckon NOR shot himself in the foot by not letting PIA past at the
>>> earliest opportunity. If he had, he would have had more laps in which to
>>>   potentially overtake him and win the race.
>>
>> Difficult to imagine this sort of situation arising when Ron Dennis was in
>> charge (also difficult to imagine Schumacher/Senna/Vettel complying).
>>
>> Given that Norris is well ahead of Piastri in the WDC, McLaren should have
>> let Lando win. Tough on Oscar, but F1 is a tough sport and his day will
>> come.
> 
> Yup, agree, unless they had a rock-hard pre-decided agreement I'm not
> party to.
> 
> I'm working on the principle that NOR was faster than PIA on his third
> set of tyres, and had they pitted Oscar first, Lando would have been on
> his tail for 10-15 laps, and one can't say an overtake would be
> impossible; Oscar was certainly making more mistakes, and it only takes
> one mistake to lose a place.

Ummmmm...how does that work in your mind?

Pitting Piastri first means he's essentially undercutting Norris and 
building more gap after they've both pitted.

> 
> Was the NOR 1st-box *really* that tactically necessary?

I think they idea was that it letting Norris pit first helped him stay 
clear of net third place, Hamilton, who had already pitted for fresh 
tires. If they'd pitted Piastri first, then Norris might be seeing the 
gap behind him close up to the point where he would get undercut.

I think they were wrong about it, but given that they radioed Piastri to 
say they wouldn't "cover Hamilton" after Hamilton's stop, it seems logical.

> 
>> With McLaren apparently dominant it is not beyond the bounds of possibility
>> that Norris could win the WDC - I just hope he doesn’t miss out by less
>> than 7 points
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> Phil