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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: BridgeWorks Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 00:32:20 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <v7pi2j$1dsq8$10@dont-email.me> References: <v7e9qt$33dn4$1@dont-email.me> <v7j9fc$rmh$1@panix2.panix.com> <v7m50d$ocuf$1@dont-email.me> <v7m5dh$ofa4$1@dont-email.me> <v7m9ck$dk6$1@panix2.panix.com> <v7mh95$qe85$1@dont-email.me> <v7n3sl$vf0$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> <v7n59g$11h0t$1@dont-email.me> <669f1ba8$0$708$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <v7n6rb$11nss$1@dont-email.me> <v7pgh8$1dmh2$2@dont-email.me> <v7pgnt$1dsq8$1@dont-email.me> <v7phpe$1dmh2$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 02:32:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c8cda285a8465d3c50906243df493072"; logging-data="1504072"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19s1q7Jxt2lQ4qJRmanLOgx" User-Agent: Pan/0.158 (Avdiivka; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lftG85gC5HoQGY0BUU/JD6ag3Wo= Bytes: 2692 On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 20:27:26 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 7/23/2024 8:09 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 20:06:00 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> >>> On 7/22/2024 11:08 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:55:35 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>>>> >>>>> AES-128 is toast if/when they make a quantum computer with enough >>>>> qubits. >>>> >>>> So far progress on getting quantum computers to perform any kind of >>>> number-theoretic computation has been precisely ... zero. >>> >>> Basing ones choices of cryptographic algorithms on a belief/hope that >>> it will continue that ways is not good engineering. >> >> Evidence: it’s been about 30 years since Shor’s algorithm came out. The >> “belief/hope” is on the side of those who still think “quantum” >> computing will somehow, magically, any day now, fulfil that >> long-overdue promise. > > You don't think logical. It is pretty simple: > > quantum computers quantum > computers do not materialize do > materialize > using non-quantum-secure algorithms OK toast switch > to quantum-secure algorithms OK OK That’s still based on a promise of vapourware.