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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: Some bicycle paths...
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:59:58 -0400
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On 7/24/2024 8:45 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 10:35:03 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/24/2024 9:41 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>
>>> Bicycles and bicycle lanes weren't designed to kill people,
>>> you idiot.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmmmm.
>> Some of those 'death chutes' certainly seem like that.
> 
> Well :-} I've never seen the idea toted that automobiles  are
> "designed to kill people" although they seem to do a pretty good job
> of doing so.
> 
> 2021 -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_death_and_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state
>   Ohio - 7.4/100,000
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_road_deaths
>   Ohio - 11.5/100,000

Automobiles are not designed to kill people. Auto deaths are 
unfortunate, but it's reasonable to say that the practical benefits of 
automobiles outweigh their detriments. You, John, apparently own an 
automobile of some type. That means you apparently think its benefits 
outweigh its detriments.

The guns I argue against are absolutely designed to kill people. I'm 
saying their detriments to society greatly outweigh their non-existent 
practical benefits. I note that nobody here has yet posted a practical 
benefit for such guns in civilian hands. And I note that you, John, 
apparently do not own an AR-style rifle. That means you judge the 
detriments of owning an AR-style rifle outweigh any practical benefits. 
And you're doing just fine without one.


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- Frank Krygowski