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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 09:10:27 -0500
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On 7/24/2024 8:05 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 7/24/24 8:41 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 7/24/2024 6:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 7/24/24 6:07 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 7/24/2024 4:44 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>>> But obviously sometimes sentences are
>>>>> decidable, and sometimes not. Since
>>>>> this depends on "True" and "L".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But when we talk about "decidability" this is actually
>>>> only a misnomer for self-contradictory.
>>>
>>> But it isn't, and you only think that because you don't understand it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Actually modern logic does it much simpler,
>>>>> you don't need to prescribe or explain what
>>>>> a "True" and "L" does, in that you repeat
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tarski "proved" that True(L,x) cannot be consistently defined
>>>> because he was simply too stupid to know that the Liar Paradox
>>>> is not a truth bearer. Most of the greatest experts in this
>>>> field are still too stupid.
>>>
>>> No, he PROVED that the grammer of the system allowed the formation of 
>>> the sentence.
>>>
>>> The "True" predicate doesn't need the expression to be a truth 
>>> bearer, just and expression that fits the grammer of the language.
>>>
>>
>> *That is a ridiculously stupid thing to say*
>> I can't imagine anyone with an IQ over 100 saying
>> that without a short-circuit in their brain.
> 
> WHy, that is the definition of it. Something you have CHOSEN not to 
> learn, but instead LIED to yourself by using your "Zeroth Principles" of 
> reading just a few things about it and then GUESSING (incorrectly) what 
> it must mean. That just shows your self-imposed STUPIDITY of the subject.
> 

You are trying to get away with the ridiculously stupid assertion
that every syntactically correct expression is a semantically
correct declarative sentence.
Is the sentence: "What time is it?" true or false?

>>
>> In other words there really is no such thing as true
>> because "a fish" is neither true nor false in English.
> 
> Right, so True(English< "a fish") would be just FALSE, which doesn't 
> mean that "a fish" is false, just that it isn't true.
> 
>>
>> This is just like that episode of HBO Westworld where
>> Bernard couldn't see a door right in front of his face
>> because his brain has been programmed to not see that door.
> 
> Sounds more like what has happend to you, You just don't seem to 
> understand the definition of the Truth Predicate that you are arguing 
> about, SInce this was self-imposed, it just proves your stupidity due to 
> having brainwashed yourself to be unable to see any actual facts that 
> contradict the lies you have told yourself, which turned you into the 
> ignorant pathological liar you are.
> 
>>
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/11/14/one-of-the-biggest-westworld-fan-theories-just-came-true/
>>
> 

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