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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips,rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 07:25:16 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <v7tn8c$2akvq$1@dont-email.me> References: <v7mhb5$qi0k$2@dont-email.me> <pan$efaa$e4f1e82d$63a65db8$edda2d85@cpacker.org> <q8mv9jpn95tb1urggdutodhiktta669ogv@4ax.com> <v7s265$ipa$1@panix2.panix.com> <lgen9qF9taeU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 16:25:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1d0ba694c9991c556e6b2461d0adf12f"; logging-data="2446330"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+z5zxxcFyoSCB2jXj18qqE" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ixhl7Hvzo0oT+vlDkRz5RzEaVnY= In-Reply-To: <lgen9qF9taeU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2838 On 7/25/2024 3:21 AM, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote: > On 25 Jul 2024 at 00:19:33 BST, "Scott Dorsey" <Scott Dorsey> wrote: > >> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> I saw an article where Microsoft was blaming the EU for forcing them >>> to allow 3rd-party access to the Kernal, which they claim is what >>> enabled the update to do bad things. If that is true, they may have a >>> point. >> >> There is always third-party access to the kernel. In the Windows NT days >> before Microsoft had figured out 1960s-style memory protection, any program >> in user space could make changes to the kernel. And sometimes they >> accidentally did. > > Are you sure? NT 3.51 and 4.0 had full tiered memory protection. Then in > Win2k (NT 5.0) they gave driver access to the kernel for GPUs, and > reintroduced massive instability yay. > > The Windows 2/3/95/98/Me series had no notable memory protection between > user and system. > >> What the EU forced Microsoft to do was to DOCUMENT the kernel so that >> people could more reliably get third-party access. >> --scott > > The EU is *mostly* doing things right on tech regulation legislation > these days. I'm watching them box Apple in for aggravated bad behaviour > at the moment, which is good fun - although I really don't appreciate > alt (ie Facebook and Epic) app stores on my nice secure iThings. > Fortunately I get to choose not to install them. > I think that last sentence is the key point of the EU laws, giving the users the actual ability to say "No." -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.