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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: [OT] What is happening in/to the US ? Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 22:12:42 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <v7v0mr$2ld7u$1@dont-email.me> References: <0deacdee3af55f25007e4493e3d24d54e6b7a13f.camel@munted.eu> <v7bce3$3k676$1@news.xmission.com> <v7ll71$gc7$1@panix3.panix.com> <9337nk-j4g.ln1@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au> <v7uldn$sb9$1@panix2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 04:12:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a670b2664521547afa0fc3ac2c83928b"; logging-data="2798846"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ymxJvUNjzkDorlEoo57MPvj4MGzG10cs=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fpltn6a6WbCeKM619CMKoightpw= In-Reply-To: <v7uldn$sb9$1@panix2.panix.com> Bytes: 3315 On 7/25/2024 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > Gary R. Schmidt <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote: >> On 22/07/2024 23:01, Scott Dorsey wrote: >>> In article <v7bce3$3k676$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote: >>>> Just out of curiosity, how have you been responding to all the people >>>> who repeatedly ratched up the hysterical incendiary rherotic by constantly >>>> calling Trump "Hitler" and constantly claiming he is a threat to democracy >>>> and so-on. >>> >>> You see, Americans traditionally have not approved of authoritarian >>> governments. We did actually start the country in reaction to a British >>> king who was becoming increasingly oppressive. >>> >> >> It always amuses me that the USA didn't just stick "Elected" in front of >> "King" and toodleloo along. ;-) > > Some folks wanted to do that. Jefferson was totally against it. > >> It's not like they don't have much the same power... > > They don't at all, as Mr. Trump discovered to his amazement. It's true > that since the constitution was written, a lot of rights were delegated > to the president by Congress (such as the ability to make war) and across > the board that has been a bad thing. It's not too late to undo some of > them. > --scott > Ok, at the risk of upsetting some, I'm going to say that the President actually is above the law. The President has to be at some times. The President is the implementation of the will of the people. Sometimes he has to "break the laws". Or is Obama guilty for having Bin Laden killed? Killing is illegal, isn't it. The only judge and jury for a President is ultimately the voting public, and sometimes, congress, but we've seen how that doesn't seem to work, haven't we? Now once again I'm hoping the voters find Trump guilty for "find me 12,800 votes", which I consider his worst crime. -- David Froble Tel: 724-529-0450 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc. E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc. 170 Grimplin Road Vanderbilt, PA 15486