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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 22:46:48 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <v7v2mq$2lkdi$1@dont-email.me> References: <v7gv2l$3l9bf$1@dont-email.me> <ll4o9jtbjqdm4snr1tlmsgaqd0s1sjtvas@4ax.com> <14dp9j1ha1s64g58tn1k5f4dep50ogilat@4ax.com> <1vgp9j9ln9pqrijflipvho4bm186qhdt56@4ax.com> <v7j8vp$4j07$2@dont-email.me> <89bq9j9dtp08mamhg5ng28v6i90ujrn0e1@4ax.com> <f3cq9j19fqraqtagbn0kl96ri7tshlgdn1@4ax.com> <h4dq9j9vevlco8t2lae1873u8mpop1jgv6@4ax.com> <gijq9jpaeuu7ubbis550c7nrvt2btamlqj@4ax.com> <hflq9jtqb5iivv1o8ed10vo76icd92lfm0@4ax.com> <v7s73g$1va65$1@dont-email.me> <8pc4ajt8dltia4tbvhn94i51drtotjccu2@4ax.com> <v7tpgd$2auhe$3@dont-email.me> <v7tuie$2c1b6$1@dont-email.me> <v7u3lc$2cr61$1@dont-email.me> <v7u8ta$2dql1$2@dont-email.me> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 04:46:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9ee3d51075c5b9f1facb3662f626f32b"; logging-data="2806194"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18pXZvGsxzJBUU5fKH++zxZPBlPZtaVZfg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ff3f+xknl5yb0IKLkmtVUenG07w= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v7u8ta$2dql1$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3773 On 7/25/2024 3:26 PM, AMuzi wrote: > On 7/25/2024 12:56 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 7/25/2024 12:30 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>> On 7/25/2024 10:03 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> On 7/25/2024 7:14 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 20:43:29 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/21/2024 2:43 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I sometimes see real alligators on the trail, and quite often, >>>>>>> poisonous snakes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's my wife, riding her Bike Friday past a roadside alligator in >>>>>> Okefenokee a few years ago. Without a gun!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/16972296@N08/53011489063/in/dateposted-public/ >>>>> >>>>> What's your point? Nobody carries a gun for protection against >>>>> alligators. >>>> >>>> OK, so you carry your gun for protection against ... what? >>>> >>> >>> Correct answer is defense of life, his own or those he has a duty to >>> protect. >> >> That's the honest answer: He carries it out of fear. But let's >> remember that the tricycle rider pedals almost exclusively on a kiddie >> path where mommies push kids in strollers while walking (gasp!) unarmed. >> >> Let's also remember that to date, nobody else here has mentioned a >> need to carry a handgun "for protection" while they ride. Nobody has >> told of a time they would have used one if they had one. >> >> Only one person seems to be so fearful. And in general, ordinary >> citizens carrying guns do so because they are afraid. >> > > Personal and situational decision. Situational and psychological. Some people have phobias about spiders, or the dark. But they don't generally carry equipment designed to kill other people because of their phobias. > Not your problem. Again, tens of thousands of annual gun deaths are a problem for all of us. So are the tax increases required to provide public defense against the nut cases and wannabe heroes who arm themselves, especially those with guns designed to fire something like 8 rounds in 6 seconds. -- - Frank Krygowski