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From: The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of
 the AUE regulars ...]
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 20:04:00 -0700
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On 7/25/24 8:38 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2024, Rich wrote:
> 
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/24/24 2:08 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, Anton Shepelev wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [Followup-To: comp.misc]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Athel Cornish-Bowden to Steve Hayes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Katy Jennison is another RR who doesn't seem to be here
>>>>>>>> any more. I still see her sometimes on Facebook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but she specifically announced that she was leaving.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is an epidemic abroad of people leaving clean, stable,
>>>>>> accessible, and independent venues such as Usenet, Fidonet,
>>>>>> Mailing lists, and IRC, for centralised capitalist
>>>>>> corporate-owned cenusured commercial "products" that are
>>>>>> huge, bloated, tasteless, and require up-to-date hardware,
>>>>>> OS, and software.  To me, this is a reiteration of the story
>>>>>> of the red pottage[1]: selling one's freedom and cleanliness
>>>>>> for immediate comfort.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a shame, but when I walk the city streets and see the young with
>>>>> their faces in their smart phones, I am not surprised. You get all the
>>>>> evils as preinstalled little icons, and the good stuff requires a few
>>>>> hoops to jump through.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I do wonder if there will be a movement away from the corporate
>>>>> islands eventually?
>>>>
>>>> How would that work?  The aforementioned young are too stupid to realize how
>>>> trapped they are and/or too ignorant to do anything about it if they DO
>>>> figure it out.  The rest of us are just too damn tired :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> A slow building up over time? Even if the majority is too stupid, perhaps
>>> there are a few who do see the light?
>>
>> This is how it almost always happens (i.e., anyone remember 'myspace'
>> from years ago)?  And I've seen news articles that imply the shift is
>> already well underway for facebook.  Apparently the "young crowd" (as
>> in the 20somethings and below) are all on Instagram because "facebook
>> is for old people" (i.e., their parents, aunts, uncles, etc. are on
>> facebook).
>>
>> Sadly, the young crowd is just trading one corporate devil for another
>> equally bad corporate devil.
> 
> Rubbish! When I'm out in bars and night clubs, I get loads of women by
> telling them I'm a regular usenet user!

Way to go, guy!  I assume you also flash a wad.

Maybe 20 years ago I would chat with the people I rode up with on the 
ski-lift.  6 minutes.  I asked them if they were involved with usenet 
and the skiing newsgroups.  Not a single one for several years, maybe 
120 rides per year.  And this is before the ascendancy of facebook.

Most of the usenet people I've "known" since 1995 have switched to 
facebook, and a significant percentage of those have just disappeared. 
Some of us are still hanging in, though.  Those are my facebook 
'friends' along with RL friends and friends of friends.  Mostly we all 
know who we are and some of us have even met each other IRL.

And if we really want to talk about stupid, there's always Nextdoor...

-- 
Cheers,Bev
   "It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
    turn out to be well-founded."       -- Edgar Watson Howe