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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Because Olcott has made this error 500 times in the last three years... Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:16:05 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <v80b35$2rabc$6@dont-email.me> References: <v7uvbq$2h6oq$1@dont-email.me> <v7vh4j$2ndo6$1@dont-email.me> <v807vd$2rabc$2@dont-email.me> <v809pm$2rou5$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:16:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="98ef4f11d97010b63c53911c6d37ff8b"; logging-data="2992492"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+WGlDTWmQN6q3b4SsBwGx6" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Lx1djB2NgX0YLMAMp1SrIDCnof0= In-Reply-To: <v809pm$2rou5$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2487 On 7/26/2024 8:53 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > Op 26.jul.2024 om 15:22 schreef olcott: >> On 7/26/2024 1:53 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 26.jul.2024 om 03:49 schreef olcott: >>>> If you understand the x86 language and can't tell how DDD >>>> emulated by HHH differs from DDD emulated by HHH1 by the >>>> following then you are probably lying about understanding >>>> the x86 language. >>> >>> We understand it perfectly. HHH cannot possibly simulate itself >>> correctly. >> >> You are too stupid to know that a non-halting computation >> cannot be emulated to completion because completion does >> not exist. > > The non-halting behaviour is only in your dreams. It is irrelevant, > because HHH halts when it aborts. Remember, HHH is simulating *itself*, > a halting program, not another non-halting simulator that does not abort > and does not halt. > typedef void (*ptr)(); int HHH(ptr P); void DDD() { HHH(DDD); } int main() { DDD(DDD); } When we understand that HHH is accountable for the behavior of its input and not accountable for the behavior of the computation that itself is contained within then we understand that HHH(DDD) is necessarily correct to reject DDD as non-halting. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer