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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Apple accused of underreporting suspected CSAM on its platforms Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:35:47 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <v80j93$2nqsm$5@dont-email.me> References: <v7mup4$7vpf$1@solani.org> <lg8ea1Fa94U1@mid.individual.net> <xn0oonlp4azqw16000@reader443.eternal-september.org> <lga2k1F7uk8U1@mid.individual.net> <xn0oonrftb7hazk002@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v7olut$19iie$1@dont-email.me> <lga8vfF8qq0U3@mid.individual.net> <v7q9vj$1l9co$1@dont-email.me> <v7qn3b$2hg0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v7rclq$1r24r$2@dont-email.me> <lgdac6F3c6aU4@mid.individual.net> <v80bju$2s7ns$2@dont-email.me> <lgi05eFq6vhU2@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 18:35:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c05bc4d5c20f118509a83fd5add5b73b"; logging-data="2878358"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+2iyxUvcBRD2iG1dhUjo7VK2gZRcymNLI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:SHOdTebd/gYT5AfrdBiydwhOvgg= In-Reply-To: <lgi05eFq6vhU2@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 3119 On 2024-07-26 09:11, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2024-07-26, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 24/07/2024 22:35, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2024-07-24, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote: >>>>> Chris wrote on Wed, 24 Jul 2024 07:20:19 -0000 (UTC) : >>>>> >>>>>> The NSPCC should really be complaining at how ineffectual the tech >>>>>> companies are rather than complain at Apple for not sending >>>>>> millions of photos to already overwhelmed authorities. >>>>> >>>>> For all that is in the news stories, it could be ZERO convictions >>>>> resulted. >>>>> >>>>> Think about that. >>>>> >>>>> Is it worth everyone's loss of privacy for maybe zero gain in child >>>>> safety? >>>> >>>> Apple's solution wouldn't have resulted in any additional loss of >>>> privacy >>> >>> Actually, Apple could not guarantee that, and there was a non-zero >>> chance that false positive matches would result in privacy >>> violations. >> >> True. The balance of risk was proportionate, however. Much moreso than >> the current system. > > Absolutely. I'm just of the opinion if one innocent person is harmed, > that's one too many. Would you want to be that unlucky innocent person > who has to deal with charges, a potential criminal sexual violation on > your record, and all that comes with it? I certainly wouldn't. > Except that Apple's system wouldn't automatically trigger charges. An actual human would review the images in question... ....AND since they were comparing images against KNOWN CSAM, false positives would naturally be very few to begin with.