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From: JAB <noway@nochance.com>
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Subject: Re: Did EGA Save PC Gaming?
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 20:48:43 +0100
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On 26/07/2024 18:36, Justisaur wrote:
> On 7/26/2024 3:22 AM, JAB wrote:
>> On 24/07/2024 16:10, Zaghadka wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:40:58 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22/07/2024 16:09, Zaghadka wrote:
>>>>> To "PC" game, because these were also contemporary "personal 
>>>>> computers,"
>>>>> you had a C=64, Atari ST, Amiga, or Speccy (thanks JAB!). An MSX in
>>>>> Japan. That's what kept enthusiasm going. I never accepted IBM 
>>>>> ownership
>>>>> of the term. To call them the source of PC gaming in the 80's is, 
>>>>> IMHO,
>>>>> silly. I regard the Z-80, the 6502, and the Motorolla 68000 as primary
>>>>> contributors to continuity of computer gaming. IBM was for work. The
>>>>> 80286 was simply not a gaming chip. The 8086 was a footnote.
>>>>
>>>> I can't say it's something that's ever bothered me as in the 80's the
>>>> term personal computer wasn't really used here but instead home
>>>> computer. Also when I hear the term PC I actually don't think of
>>>> 'personal computer' as such but instead an IBM compatible which isn't a
>>>> laptop even that that's also a PC, or is it. I think I've confused
>>>> myself now!
>>>>
>>>
>>> To each his own. I wore a Che Guevara shirt with "The C=64 is also a PC,
>>> idiots!" emblazoned over his face. All you could see was the beret.
>>>
>>> I lived a stone's throw from Armonk at the time, though.
>>>
>>
>> Getting peeved for no particular reason is part of the human condition!
>>
>> Part of me dies inside every time I see someone use acronym 
>> interchangeable with abbreviation. I do now have to accept that 
>> meaning has basically entered common usage but still.
> 
> Hmm.  I haven't seen that.  Or do I just not know the difference and 
> think I do?
> 

Generally I've seen it with the more specialised case of say IP which is 
an initialism whereas acronym is a more specialised version where it's 
pronounced as a word so FOMO or Tardis.

>> Another one is begs for question for raises the question instead of 
>> its more formal meaning.
> 
> I never used "begs the question" and I still don't fully understand what 
> it's supposed to mean even after watching multiple videos and reading 
> numbers of rants on it.
> 

I wouldn't worry too much about it as it's just a way of categorising 
fallacies so you understand faulty reasoning and there's quite a bit of 
disagreement on exactly what it is - philosophers like arguing if you 
haven't noticed. So it can be where the truth of a premise, used to 
justify a conclusion, is only justified by the conclusion itself. So, 
camping is fun as being out in nature is enjoyable.

A variant on it is circular reasoning with probably the most famous 
example being the Bible is true because it's the word of God and we know 
it's the word of God as the Bible says so.

> English has a lot of meaning drift, and numerous instances of words and 
> phrases changing to mean the opposite of what they once did.  Bad used 
> to mean the opposite of good, but for awhile it changed to mean cool and 
> good but that wasn't even permanent. Nice meant nasty a long time ago etc.
> 
> English is also the worst Hodge-podge language in existence especially 
> the written version which realistically is a different language than the 
> spoken.  I don't get upset at others making such mistakes.
> 

Generally I'm very much as long as I can understand what someone says, 
or writes, then I'm can't say I'm bothered as that's what the English 
language is for - communication.

My two exceptions to that are text speak online and also using the 'big' 
words when you don't really know what they mean with ad hominem and 
strawman being the top of that list.

> I know it's not English exactly but I can't even use thumbs up or 
> periods at work anymore as that's now considered a rude indication that 
> you're done with the conversation.  Much like saying "Good day!" ... "I 
> said GOOD DAY, sir!
> 
> I used to have a pet peeve of people using the wrong one of "too" and 
> "to" and it still bothers me, but I always let it slide, I even catch 
> myself making the typo myself from time to time even though I know which 
> is which.  Effect and affect is another.  I also used to mess up rogue 
> and rouge all the time but had it flamed out of me, though that's only 
> really in common usage in 3.5+ D&D referring what should properly be the 
> Thief class.
> 

I seem to forget every time is it supposed to be too or to and I also 
have a habit of interchanging words that are phonetically identical even 
though I know full well which one is which.

> Bone-apple-tea!
>