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From: William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: whenwhen Skye was a sub-tropical paradise with warm shallow seas
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erik simpson wrote:
> On 7/25/24 10:56 AM, William Hyde wrote:
>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 19:41:41 -0700, the following appeared
>>> in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
>>> <john.harshman@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 7/24/24 4:20 PM, erik simpson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/24/24 3:52 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:35:12 -0600, the following appeared
>>>>>> in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
>>>>>> <agisaak@gm.invalid>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-07-24 15:00, burkhard wrote:
>>>>>>>> It isn't any longer now, that much I can tell you - though we 
>>>>>>>> braced
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> cold and went for a swim yesterday. Not exactly Skye, though we 
>>>>>>>> can see
>>>>>>>> it from where we are (Malaig)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I envy you. It was 37° C here yesterday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oooh, a low-temp sauna! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's varied form 42C to 47C (daytime highs) here this month,
>>>>>> with dew points from -5C to 23C. A "dry heat" it's not, at
>>>>>> this time of year. :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>> When it gets to that in Skye, global warming won't be deniable by 
>>>>> anybody.
>>>>>
>>>> You underestimate the abilities of some people to deny. Incidentally,
>>>> Sunday and Monday were the two hottest days in recorded history (world
>>>> average).
>>>>
>>> "Recorded history" dating back...200 years?
>>
>> The instrumental record does not go back that far in the sense of 
>> global coverage,  though isolated areas do have longer records - but 
>> there is then the question of accuracy, reliability, and so forth.
>>
>> We know the world is much warmer than in 1824 from a mass of data, but 
>> temperature records form a small part of this.
>>
>> In later times when we have more measurements, but still not global 
>> coverage, a lot can be done with statistical methods, but the fewer 
>> and worse distributed the observations, the larger the error bars.
>>
>> How far in the past we have a global temperature estimate accurate to 
>> within .2C is a question to which I don't have an answer.  I would 
>> suspect no less than 50 years or so, and possibly a hundred.
>>
>> The good news for me is that this summer I'm not coughing up bits of 
>> tree.  Of course, that is largely because so much of the susceptible 
>> area is still ash from last year.  But I'll take all the small 
>> victories I can get.
>>
>>
>> William Hyde
>>
>>
> Where are you that you got smoked last year?  I live on the east side of 
> the Sierra Nevada, where we had very bad smoke three or four years ago. 
> This year we've been pretty good.

I live in Toronto, where the smoke was nowhere near as bad as in, say, 
NY or DC.

But I coughed a lot that summer, and so far not this summer.

The only compensation was a beautiful blood-red moon.

And in the past 24hourse we've lost most of another town, the resort of 
Jasper.

William Hyde
>