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Hi,

I do not exclude a turn-around possibility
for Scryer Prolog. But with errors like this,
that are at the core of some ideas behind

Scryer Prolog, like the glorious char based
double quoted lists, which have special data
structure support:

?- [X,Y] = [e,foo], Z is X.
    X = e, Y = foo, Z = 2.718281828459045.

?- [X,Y] = [e,f], Z is X.
    error(type_error(evaluable,e),(is)/2).

But I doubt that any such list/array ideas,
especially when they try to share subarrays
are even a good idea. Trealla Prolog tries

something similar. But initial Java had for
example a sharing substring() method. But they
abandoned that over the time. So their

strings are not sharing anymore, and code that
relied on sharing got broken. You can have
sharing through other interfaces, but Strings

are not anymore sharing. Any idea why?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Question is what happened to academic artificial
> intelligence. The golden years are over where
> longer projects over 10 years or so produced
> 
> tangible results. Industry with Facebook, OpenAI
> has taken over. And there is a residual research
> which is basically a camp for geriatric
> 
> unemployeds cauched in fancy role names:
> 
> Example:
> 
> DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION CHAIRS
> WORKFLOW MANAGERS
> https://www.ecai2024.eu/
> 
> Automatizing the watering can, is probably the
> next step:
> 
> Improving the Buurtbudget:
> Can Mathematics and Computer Science?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSX90xJjSAw
> 
> Why not make it a blind lottery. You just get
> money, but you don't have to return something
> in exchange.
> 
> Just like Scryer Prolog, which spent 3 years
> of programming, for nothing.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> What killed Scryer Prolog exactly? Except
>> maybe this mess of >270 issues?
>>
>> https://github.com/mthom/scryer-prolog/issues
>>
>> There are open issues back to 2019.
>> Its quite an amazing showcase.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Did Lifeware Kill Scryer Prolog CLP(Z) ?
>>>
>>> Sounds interesting:
>>>
>>> Pack modeling a SWI-Prolog pack for mathematical
>>> modellng with constraints on subscripted variables,
>>> developed by François Fages. François Fages. A
>>> Constraint-based Mathematical Modeling Library in
>>> Prolog with Answer Constraint Semantics.
>>> https://lifeware.inria.fr/wiki/Main/Software
>>>
>>> In 17th International Symposium on Functional and
>>> Logic Programming, FLOPS 2024, volume 14659 of LNCS.
>>> Springer-Verlag, 2024. [ preprint ]
>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.17286
>>>
>>> Does it perform?
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Especially since good old FORTRAN has
>>>> made a new appearance:
>>>>
>>>> TIOBE Index for May 2024
>>>> I have received a lot of questions why Fortran entered the top 10
>>>> again after more than 20 years. The TIOBE index just publishes
>>>> what has been measured.
>>>> https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
>>>>
>>>> Why Fortran is back in TIOBE’s top 10
>>>> First, Fortran is especially good at numerical analysis and
>>>> computational mathematics. Numerical and mathematical
>>>> computing is growing because interest in artificial intelligence
>>>> is growing, Jansen told TechRepublic in an email.
>>>> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/tiobe-index-may-2024/
>>>
>>
>