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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.killfile.org!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Country roads revisited - life is old there..OLDER than the mountains... Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:56:12 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <v8871u$gnip$1@dont-email.me> References: <bc67ef215db7b1bbefe105f204ec5dde@www.novabbs.com> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="90346"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Gt3Jvkzkyi7stdb5IvU4fuVpqCI= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id D560D229782; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:55:50 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA9E1229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:55:48 -0400 (EDT) id 85ABC7FCB8; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 609867FC27 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:56:18 -0400 (EDT) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB7525F824 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/CB7525F824; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 84242DC01A9; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:56:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:56:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/P3eMDJr8kZbWGHoG+xOLEWG3wdriyyf4= In-Reply-To: <bc67ef215db7b1bbefe105f204ec5dde@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-US FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4084 On 7/29/2024 5:28 AM, burkhard wrote: > according to this new, but heavily disputed research on how old > complex life on Earth is > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3geyvpxpeyo > https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/nph.16249 This paper indicates that aerobic photosynthesis may have evolved a billion years before the great Oxidation event 2.3 billion years ago (could have evolved over 3 billion years ago). It looks like anoxygenic photosynthesis evolved first and the Oxigenic photosystem cores evolved from anoxygenic cores. A recent paper that I put up indicated that cyanobacteria evolved nitrogen fixation before they evolved oxygenic photosynthesis. This means that it was an uphill climb for oxigenic photosynthesis when vital systems needed anaerobic conditions to function. Chemotrophes are anaerobic, so oxygen was poison to lifeforms when oxygenic photosynthesis evolved, even to the cyanobacteria that evolved the system. Anoxygenic photosynthetic bacteria still exist in oxygen poor environments. The fact that all life was adapted to anaerobic conditions could have delayed the great oxidation event for a billion years. No one wanted oxydative phototrophes for neighbors, not even the oxidative phototrophes that fixed nitrogen that had to deal with self inflicted oxygen generation. Ron Okimoto