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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Intel overvoltage Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:52:35 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <v88hck$ij11$2@dont-email.me> References: <b5d4a172469485e9799de44f5f120c73@www.novabbs.org> <v7ubd4$2e8dr$1@dont-email.me> <v7uc71$2ec3f$1@dont-email.me> <2024Jul26.190007@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v811ub$309dk$1@dont-email.me> <2024Jul29.145933@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v88fut$icqk$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:52:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c8aa09e2d45f8fb38190453b39c47ea3"; logging-data="609313"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19EAqSh4oS3Rf2aJuJqS4lat+q3KRqgycc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:rJhe/tG3AwuoYh25oq378c4Rubg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v88fut$icqk$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2153 On 7/29/2024 11:28 AM, Thomas Koenig wrote: > Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> schrieb: > > [Topic divergence] > >> Delivering working hardware is the job of hardware >> engineers. > > Which they sometimes mess up, see Intel's recent overvoltage > fiasco. If anybody damaged their CPU that way, well... > > Microcode updates will fix the cause, maybe, but damaged chips > stay damaged. > > See > > https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a Saw a thing where they apparently (in the mix of all of this) also had an issue (mostly with a subset of 13th gen chips) where O2 was leaking into the machines and was contaminating some of the chips (also leading to degradation and failure), but the over-voltage issue applied to both sets of chips (and was the main problem for 14th gen; as by this point they had already found/fixed the leak). ....