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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see... Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:35:16 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <v88qtk$k3pj$1@dont-email.me> References: <v887np$gl15$1@dont-email.me> <v88ptq$ju20$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:35:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9d358cc663705f17d44fb4afa23cd753"; logging-data="659251"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX198GzJ3jkQGbSBg7kTOpsld" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:MtW9HFkiCbz+GDvbn+gDCjz869M= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v88ptq$ju20$1@dont-email.me> On 7/29/2024 2:18 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > Op 29.jul.2024 om 16:07 schreef olcott: >> HHH(Infinite_Recursion) and HHH(DDD) show the same non-halting >> behavior pattern in their derived execution traces of their >> inputs. >> >> Correct emulation is defined as emulating the machine language >> input according to the x86 semantics specified by this input. >> >> For DDD correctly emulated by HHH this includes HHH emulating >> itself emulating DDD according to the x86 semantics of itself. >> >> HHH(DDD) shows the exact same execution trace behavior pattern >> as HHH(Infinite_Recursion) where 3-4 instructions are repeated >> with no conditional branch instructions in this trace that could >> prevent them from endlessly repeating. >> >> void Infinite_Recursion() >> { >> Infinite_Recursion(); >> } > > No, the HHH that aborts after N cycles has a similar behaviour as > So you don't even know that infinite recursion is non-halting behavior. You can go back and try again on this same post I am not looking at anything else that you say. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer