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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Wildfires in Jasper NP, Canada Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:42:33 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <v89juo$rqfk$1@dont-email.me> References: <v7rgn6$1mifb$5@dont-email.me> <v7rgpc$1ro4s$1@dont-email.me> <v86m71$5a1r$1@dont-email.me> <v88upp$jup0$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 04:42:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="010a1cf00d2c9382f667466224cfd985"; logging-data="911860"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19twUBwQMigcp5nw/AuXKS55+Id0JlncCs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:uuU3Mi207CxoHxdcQpl5bGL0fGA= In-Reply-To: <v88upp$jup0$8@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2142 On 7/29/2024 4:41 PM, Alan wrote: > On 2024-07-28 17:02, Tom Elam wrote: >> On 7/24/2024 2:22 PM, Alan wrote: >>> On 2024-07-24 11:21, -hh wrote: >>>> Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions: >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8> >>> >>> Based on his political leanings, I'm sure Tom doesn't believe in >>> global warming. >>> >>> :-) >>> >> >> Global warming has been going on for a very long time. The data are >> irrefutable. > > Love the careful phrasing there... > Nothing careful, empirical data going back hundreds of millions of years show that climate warms after cold ice ages. In the past natural events like the Siberian Traps have had warming effects far more severe than the current recovery from the last ice ages. OTOH "Snowball Earth" +-600 ma also had a devastating effect on life. The earth warmed and life recovered. There is absolutely no doubt that atmospheric composition plays a role in climate.