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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Memory ordering Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:00:17 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: <v8bgoh$15rb6$2@dont-email.me> References: <b5d4a172469485e9799de44f5f120c73@www.novabbs.org> <v7ubd4$2e8dr$1@dont-email.me> <v7uc71$2ec3f$1@dont-email.me> <2024Jul26.190007@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2032da2f7a4c7c8c50d28cacfa26c9c7@www.novabbs.org> <2024Jul29.152110@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <f8869fa1aadb85896d237179d46b20f8@www.novabbs.org> <2024Jul30.115146@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v8bghs$15rb6$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 22:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="87f39ac7600a900f46d6fc02404b3288"; logging-data="1240422"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18aWjCYnb3ZPtC/PwkooopzOnQf4CLPyFI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qLrF2aJflaK3eguXtKq3q9D3NOA= In-Reply-To: <v8bghs$15rb6$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2239 On 7/30/2024 12:56 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > communication between cores _should_ be rare, rare as can be. The > software "should" design things to strive to reduce this down to the > embarrassingly parallel level. However, misusing, say wrt a bug in the > core mapping wrt affinity masks and such can increase core to core > communication/traffic... Not good. Terrible case, the traffic is for a > remote core, not all that close (physically) to the current core: The > core running the code that wants it to deal with another node so to > speak. NUMA... > > If a core/node _must_ communicate with another core/node, the locality > in the graph should allow the core/node to "converse" with a "local" > core/node as in "gain the closest core/node to the source"! Embarrassingly parallel workloads "ideally" should have everything working independently...