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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: What qualifies a person to be a "Philosopher of science"?
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https://evolutionnews.org/2024/07/stephen-meyer-and-justin-brierley-on-the-mainstreaming-of-intelligent-design/

Stephen Meyer has been director of the ID scam unit of the Discovery 
Institute from the beginning in the mid 1990's, and has directed the 
bait and switch scam for over 22 years.  Getting ID taught in the public 
schools was one of the 5 year goals listed in the Wedge Document, and 
Meyer was one of the major proponents for teaching ID in the public 
schools and coauthor of the ID scam booklet on teaching ID in the public 
schools that they used to give out with their ID Wedge video.  That 
booklet was still available to download for free from the Discovery 
Institute web site during the Dover fiasco.  After Dover the ID perps 
still claimed to be able to teach ID in the public schools, but they did 
not want ID "required" to be taught.  It became part of their official 
education policy that still exists in their current Teach ID propaganda.

When they ran the bait and switch on both Louisiana and Texas in 2013 
they removed the "required" paragraph from their education policy 
because neither state was requiring ID to be taught, but the Discovery 
Institute ran the bait and switch on both states anyways.  No 
creationist group has ever gotten the ID science to teach from the ID 
perps.  They eventually rewrote their education policy and reintroduced 
the "not required" stupidity, and Utah took them up on it, and wanted to 
teach ID in their public schools back in 2017, but the bait and switch 
went down again.  As stupid as it may be West Virginia creationist rubes 
recently got legislation past that the authors claim will allow teaching 
ID in their public schools, but they did not require ID to be taught. 
The Discovery institute ran the bait and switch anyway, and claimed that 
they did not support teaching ID in the public schools.  Their education 
policy was removed from their web site.  I could not find it listed in 
their education section after they came out against the West Virginia 
effort, but it reappeared because it was probably stupid to try to deny 
what they had been claiming when you just have to use Wayback internet 
archive to bring up their past web pages.

So using ID "science" as bait in a bogus political bait and switch scam 
qualifies someone to be a Philosopher of science.  As far as I can tell 
no ID science has ever been attempted.  The negative reaction of the TO 
IDiots to the Top Six best evidences for IDiocy indicates that 
creationists never wanted the ID perps to successfully accomplish any 
legitimate ID science.  Not very many biblical creationists want the ID 
perps to successfully fill any of the Top Six gaps with a god that would 
obviously not be the Biblical god.  ID has only been used as bait to 
lure the rubes in, in order to bend them over and try to make them take 
the obfuscation and denial switch scam that the ID perps tell them has 
nothing to do with ID science.  Nearly all the creationist rubes have 
dropped the issue instead of bend over for the switch scam.  Ohio 
dropped the issue in 2007 and both Lousiana and Texas tried to use the 
switch scam legislation and school board policies to teach ID, and had 
to have the bait and switch run on them again.  Neither state has tried 
to implement the switch scam at the state level since the 2013 bait and 
switch went down.

The bait and switch failed in Dover, and now in West Virginia.  The ID 
perps have never put out a public school lesson plan for teaching the 
junk, so no one (not even the West Virginia creationist rubes) know what 
to teach about the ID scam.  Nelson has been an ID perp that has always 
told the rubes that they didn't have any ID science yet, but that they 
were working on producing some.  Nelson never bought into the Top Six 
best evidences for IDiocy.  Nelson like the Dover and West Virginia 
rubes is a young earth creationist, and as a whole, the Top Six are not 
consistent with biblical creationism.  The ID perps made that clear to 
the TO IDiots by claiming that they were in "their order simply 
reflecting that in which they must logically have occurred within our 
universe".  It turned out that science is just the study of nature, and 
nature is not Biblical.

#1 of the Top Six evidences for IDiocy is the Big Bang, and biblical 
creationists have already dropped that topic out of the public school 
science standards in Kansas, and I recall Texas and Oklahoma also wanted 
to drop the Big Bang from their science standards.  This just means that 
the IDiotic creationist rubes do not want to teach the best evidence for 
ID, so what is it that they are going to teach about ID?

The bait and switch has been required because the ID perps have nothing 
that the creationists would want to teach.  Running a bait and switch 
scam seems to qualify someone to be a Philosopher of science.  I guess 
Meyer does understand science enough to know that he doesn't want it 
taught honestly and in a straight forward manner whether it is called 
creation science or intelligent design.  The Scientific creationists 
used to use the Top Six for god-of-the-gaps denial "evidence", but they 
were never stupid enough to claim that they had obviously occurred in a 
nonbiblical order in this universe.

Ron Okimoto