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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: No decider is ever accountable for the behavior of the
 computation that itself is contained within
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 18:20:43 -0500
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On 7/30/2024 1:56 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-07-29 16:32:00 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 7/28/2024 3:40 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-27 14:21:50 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 7/27/2024 2:46 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-07-26 16:28:43 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No decider is ever accountable for the behavior of the
>>>>>> computation that itself is contained within.
>>>>>
>>>>> That claim is fully unjustified. How do you even define "accountable"
>>>>> in the context of computations, automata, and deciders?
>>>>
>>>> int sum(int x, int y){ return x + y; }
>>>> sum(5,6) is not accountable for reporting sum(3,2).
>>>
>>> That claim is fully unjustified. How do you even define "accountable"
>>> in the context of computations, automata, and deciders?
>>>
>>>> It computes the mapping from its input to the value of their sum.
>>>
>>> That's obvious but is it relevant?
>>>
>>>> HHH must compute the mapping from its input finite string
>>>> of the x86 machine code of DDD to the behavior that this
>>>> finite string specifies and then report on the halt status
>>>> of this behavior.
>>>
>>> Now is that relevant?
>>
>> Halt deciders report the halt status on the basis
>> of the behavior that a finite string input specifies.
> 
> How is that relevant?
> 

Computable functions are the formalized analogue of the intuitive notion 
of algorithms, in the sense that a function is computable if there 
exists an algorithm that can do the job of the function, i.e. *given an* 
*input of the function domain it can return the corresponding output* 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computable_function


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