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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Analytic Expressions of language not linked to their semantic meaning are simply untrue Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:03:28 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 41 Message-ID: <v8cr4g$1gk19$1@dont-email.me> References: <v86olp$5km4$1@dont-email.me> <v8a4vf$uhll$1@dont-email.me> <v8aqh7$11ivs$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:03:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="71988b1b9197e762e3fd586009a80784"; logging-data="1593385"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18DhhhOkEQdfZCSSVjdEk/k" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:vDe8tppesErd4F2IihQUmKbtsgQ= Bytes: 2623 On 2024-07-30 13:40:55 +0000, olcott said: > On 7/30/2024 2:33 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-07-29 00:44:41 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> The truth about every expression of language that can be known >>> to be true on the basis of its meaning expressed in language is >>> that a lack of connection simply means untrue. >> >> Does that really mean something? If the significance of the lack of >> connection is restricted to sentences where the connection exists >> then it seems that you are talking about nothing. >> > > https://plato.stanford.edu/Entries/analytic-synthetic/ > I had to redefine the analytic side of the analytic/synthetic > distinction because Quine convinced most everyone that this > distinction does not exist. You cannot redefine side wihout redefining the other side and the distinction itself. Is your redefinition equivalent to the one at https://plato.stanford.edu/Entries/analytic-synthetic/ or did you find out that that distincition is not the one that exists? > Every expression x of (formal or natural) language L that > can be connected to the its semantic meaning in L by a > sequence of truth preserving operations is true in L. > The same thing applies to ~x making x false in L. That does not mean anything aunless you define "truth preserving operations" and how they connect semantic meanings to expressions. > When x and ~x are both unprovable in L then x is not a > truth-bearer in L. Can you prove that every expression that is true in L by your definition is provable by the rules of L? -- Mikko