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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see... predict correctly Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 22:51:13 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <v8f0ni$204k7$1@dont-email.me> References: <v887np$gl15$1@dont-email.me> <v8a2j5$u4t6$1@dont-email.me> <v8asse$12hr3$2@dont-email.me> <v8aukp$12grj$1@dont-email.me> <v8b00m$12ojm$1@dont-email.me> <v8bchs$15ai5$1@dont-email.me> <v8bh32$15une$1@dont-email.me> <d89f03c5a605f010ec3c83c50137b983dc85848e@i2pn2.org> <v8bl2j$16ibk$2@dont-email.me> <tiuiaj5jf0jqcfcfntko5hufisp8mb93bm@4ax.com> <v8bu91$18b7k$2@dont-email.me> <ddb7a467da20b6a6bd90aee9735a62ae68cac50e.camel@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 05:51:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="43bdb5b5240bc1a7b819e9c932bb8afa"; logging-data="2101895"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18GrNscj2T/KrqrTdzMth2n" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZLutVPZ0WYKO9d2uGnL3dmKusiw= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <ddb7a467da20b6a6bd90aee9735a62ae68cac50e.camel@gmail.com> Bytes: 2289 On 7/31/2024 10:08 PM, wij wrote: > On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 18:50 -0500, olcott wrote: >> >> It is not supposed to be a general solution to the halting problem. >> it only shows how the "impossible" input is correctly determined >> to be non halting. >> > > But how do you determine it is non-halting? > > As I know you are even unable to define what 'halt' mean !!! > I have done this thousands of times and after someone has read these thousands of times they say that I never said it once. void DDD() { HHH(DDD); return; } int main() { HHH(DDD); } If DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its return instruction then it never halts. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer