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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see... predict correctly Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 09:46:53 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <v8fehe$22ege$1@dont-email.me> References: <v887np$gl15$1@dont-email.me> <v8a2j5$u4t6$1@dont-email.me> <v8asse$12hr3$2@dont-email.me> <v8aukp$12grj$1@dont-email.me> <v8b00m$12ojm$1@dont-email.me> <v8bchs$15ai5$1@dont-email.me> <v8bh32$15une$1@dont-email.me> <d89f03c5a605f010ec3c83c50137b983dc85848e@i2pn2.org> <v8bl2j$16ibk$2@dont-email.me> <tiuiaj5jf0jqcfcfntko5hufisp8mb93bm@4ax.com> <v8bu91$18b7k$2@dont-email.me> <ddb7a467da20b6a6bd90aee9735a62ae68cac50e.camel@gmail.com> <v8f0ni$204k7$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 09:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c0ac17c3f9e00decd2248743b2f1a16"; logging-data="2177550"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/vVaTRCBkoRAHPZcae3U0a" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:QAi13Fbn+hniZmgpsx3ovvHASvw= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <v8f0ni$204k7$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2437 Op 01.aug.2024 om 05:51 schreef olcott: > On 7/31/2024 10:08 PM, wij wrote: >> On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 18:50 -0500, olcott wrote: >>> >>> It is not supposed to be a general solution to the halting problem. >>> it only shows how the "impossible" input is correctly determined >>> to be non halting. >>> >> >> But how do you determine it is non-halting? >> >> As I know you are even unable to define what 'halt' mean !!! >> > I have done this thousands of times and after someone > has read these thousands of times they say that I never > said it once. > > void DDD() > { > HHH(DDD); > return; > } > > int main() > { > HHH(DDD); > } > > If DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly > reach its return instruction then it never halts. > > But a correct simulation is impossible. HHH cannot possibly simulate itself correctly. So you made the same error thousands of times. You never showed a correct definition.