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From: Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: New VSI blog post
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 12:50:43 +0100
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On 01/08/2024 03:01, John Reagan wrote:
> On 7/31/2024 6:54 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
>> On 31/07/2024 21:50, John Reagan wrote:
>>> On 7/30/2024 6:21 PM, Richard Jordan wrote:
>>>> On 7/29/24 6:44 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> For those that have not seen it:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://vmssoftware.com/resources/blog/2024-07-26-rtl8/
>>>>>
>>>>> (Darya is listed as author, John Reagan is quoted in it)
>>>>>
>>>>> Content is a rather unusual mix of:
>>>>> * some business/admin stuff
>>>>>      - 8.4-2L1 going out of standard support in December
>>>>>        so time to update to 8.4-2L3
>>>>>      - a warning about known issues in C RTL 8 and a suggestion
>>>>>        to wait for C RTL 9
>>>>> * some programming notes about problems related to:
>>>>>      - use of uninitialized variables
>>>>>      - mismatch between 32 and 64 bit
>>>>>
>>>>> Arne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Just to request clarification... are the C RTL issues across all 
>>>> platforms or just x86 specific?  The blog post mentioned the legacy 
>>>> GEM compiler "would" (past tense) pad the space and the LLVM does not.
>>>>
>>>> We're not getting LLVM behavior on the older systems, are we?  Alpha 
>>>> and Integrity behavior will remain the same?
>>>>
>>>> I ask because we no longer have access to a C compiler; connecting 
>>>> code was built to interface BASIC to FreeTDS, GSOAP and other 
>>>> packages long ago when we had the HP developer licenses which are 
>>>> long gone.  I only have access to BASIC (which is the primary 
>>>> language) and really don't want to try to rewrite the connector code 
>>>> if it turns out to have problems on an upgraded test system.
>>>>
>>>> And also don't want to find out we have issues with any packages 
>>>> that VSI may no longer be supporting (like GSOAP?)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>> Most of our CRTL changes have been for all targets.  For 
>>> Alpha/Itanium, the delivery method is with ECO kits.  For x86, 
>>> simplying upgrading the OS from V9.2 to V9.2-1 to V9.2-2 etc. will 
>>> pick up the new features.
>>>
>>> The LLVM code generator is only for x86 targets.  There are no 
>>> currently active LLVM targets for Alpha or Itanium.  There would be 
>>> no benefit to a switch, only lots of risk.  We haven't upgraded the 
>>> Alpha/Itanium compilers in a long time.  The only one with an active 
>>> bug we need to fix is with the /SEPARATE qualifier with Fortran and 
>>> BASIC on Itanium (it is also broken for a different reason on x86)
>>>
>>> The x86 BASIC compiler is finished and will be available on the 
>>> portal in the next day or so (for those who have access)
>>>
>>> $ show sys/noproc
>>> OpenVMS V9.2-2  on node X86VMS   31-JUL-2024 16:48:23.70   Uptime  7 
>>> 03:53:46
>>> $ basic/version
>>> VSI BASIC x86-64 V1.9-001 (GEM 50Y7I) on OpenVMS x86_64 V9.2-2
>>>
>>> $ show sys/noproc
>>> OpenVMS E9.2-3  on node X86VMS   31-JUL-2024 16:48:32.66   Uptime  14 
>>> 03:18:17
>>> $ basic/version
>>> VSI BASIC x86-64 V1.9-001 (GEM 50Y7I) on OpenVMS x86_64 E9.2-3
>>>
>>
>> Do we need 9.2-3, or is 9.2-2 enough?
>> I do know I need to recompile everything
>>
> V9.2-2 is sufficient.


Thanks

-- 
Chris