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Subject: Re: Automatic android OS updates
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On 8/1/2024 10:21 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 01/08/2024 13:11, Newyana2 wrote:
>> On 8/1/2024 4:47 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure where this leaves us. Why was one system app updated
>>> automatically and the other one wasn't? Perhaps the Play Store update
>>> was a security one and that overrode a "do not update automatically"
>>> setting.
>>>
>>
>> ��� Google Play Store a system app? Why? Because it's Google?
>> I keep it disabled, along with any other Google crap that I
>> can disable. System updates will nag every time I start up
>> the phone. I have to be careful not to let them run. Awhile back
>> I accidentally let one run. I paid for it by now being pestered
>> with endless popups: "You should enable this!" "You should
>> enable that!"
>>
>> ���� I think it's sort of like Windows system DLLs vs Microsoft
>> Office or Copilot. The first is in a system update. The
>> second is only MS programs that they're trying to push.
>> Same with Google. They've thoroughly infested Android,
>> but Android is not a Google app and Google apps are not
>> Android.
> 
> Is there a definition for "System app"? FWIW, my Xiaomi has an option in 
> "Settings" called "System app settings". Those listed are Recorder, 
> Music, Call settings, Notes, Camera, Gallery, Security, System apps 
> updater, and Xiaomi cloud. To me, only Security and Call settings should 
> really be referred to as system apps. What have Music and Gallery got to 
> with the the way that Android works? I was going on the 
> support.google.com webpage being titled "Google System Release Notes". 
> Also, MAM refers to both Google Play Store and Google Play Services as 
> "System app". In contrast, for example, it refers to Brave and iPlayer 
> as "User app".
> 

   I see what you mean. In that sense Notepad is also a system
app, coming with the system. But you were talking about system
updates. I have the Google apps mostly disabled. The Google
Play Store app, as I understand it, is involved with using their
store. A system update is an update to system files.

  In the same way, a Windows update wouldn't update Microsoft
software like MSO. That would be separate. But I don't know
whether Google Play Store updates on its own or as part of
a system update. I only know that it's not necessary for my
cellphone's operation... and that system updates don't
install unless I allow it. Though they're very pushy. It's not
a yes-no choice. It's a now-later choice. It reminds me of the
old AOL login: "Would you like a new credit card?" The choices
were yes or ask me later. :)