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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Hypothetical possibilities --- Complete Proof
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 16:03:27 -0500
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On 8/1/2024 2:30 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 01.aug.2024 om 18:32 schreef olcott:
>> On 8/1/2024 11:11 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Thu, 01 Aug 2024 09:30:00 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 8/1/2024 9:23 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 01.aug.2024 om 15:29 schreef olcott:
>>>>>> On 8/1/2024 8:12 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>> Op 01.aug.2024 om 14:20 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 8/1/2024 3:10 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Op 31.jul.2024 om 23:23 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2024 3:01 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Op 31.jul.2024 om 17:14 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2024 3:44 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 31.jul.2024 om 06:09 schreef olcott:
>>>
>>>>>>> The trace stops and hides what happens when 000015d2 is called.
>>>>>>> Olcott is hiding the conditional branch instructions in the
>>>>>>> recursion.
>>>>>> These next lines conclusively prove that DDD is being correctly
>>>>>> emulated by HHH after DDD calls HHH(DDD).
>>>>> It also shows that HHH when simulating itself, does not reach the end
>>>>> of its own simulation.
>>>> If you weren't a clueless wonder you would understand that DDD 
>>>> correctly
>>>> emulated by HHH including HHH emulating itself emulated DDD has no end
>>>> of correct emulation.
>>
>>> It does if the simulated HHH aborts, but its simulating copy preempts
>>> that. Indeed, it has no choice, but if it didn't abort, the simulation
>>> wouldn't abort either. Therefore it can't simulate itself.
>>>
>>
>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>      If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
>>      until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
>>      stop running unless aborted then
>>
>>      H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
>>      specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
>> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
> 
> Sipser agreed only to a correct simulation.

of N steps.

>>
>> I spent two years carefully composing the above before I even
>> asked professor Sipser to review it.
>>
>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH until HHH sees the same
>> never ending pattern that anyone else can see.
> 
> The never ending pattern is there only in your dreams. The HHH that 
> halts after two cycles has a halting pattern. 

In order for DDD correctly emulated by HHH to halt
DDD correctly emulated  must reach its emulated "ret"
instruction. This <is> impossible.

> Only HHH, when simulating 
> itself, cannot see that after two cycles, because it needs one more cycle.
> Two is not infinite.
> Dream are no substitute for facts, not for logic.
> 

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer