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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Peter Olcott here seems to consistently lie about this --- Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:38:00 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <v8hkao$2koul$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8hf52$2jl7d$1@dont-email.me> <KNqcndx8Sacd3TH7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <8c7fcb21223d5d1b19e03d484024b02eab5aaadf@i2pn2.org> <v8higj$2kegl$1@dont-email.me> <0f117b9c47b8aaeb92b45f28fbe7a4f56eae8b81@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2024 05:38:00 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="49c3b1279a491a49cbaeec74f647ee34"; logging-data="2778069"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/liQ3Wgko1uJnX8UUvjXAb" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ehe2iYbGtyZLggmJio15YDQH0CQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <0f117b9c47b8aaeb92b45f28fbe7a4f56eae8b81@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3380 On 8/1/2024 10:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 8/1/24 11:06 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 8/1/2024 9:33 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 8/1/24 10:12 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> *This algorithm is used by all the simulating termination analyzers* >>>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> >>>> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D >>>> until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never >>>> stop running unless aborted then >>>> >>>> H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D >>>> specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. >>>> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> >>> >>> But only for th right definition of "Correctly Simulated" which means >>> of the exact input without aborting. >>> >>>> >>>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH according to the x86 >>>> language semantics of DDD and HHH including when DDD >>>> emulates itself emulating DDD >>> >>> Nope. >>> >>> Call HHH needs to be followed in the trace by the instructions of HHH >>> >>> And you "full Trace" printouts are NOT the trace that HHH Makes, but >>> are traces OF HHH doing its decision. >>> >> >> The bottom line has always been (for three years now) that the >> fact that the next lines of DDD, (and DD) have always been the >> next lines that a correct x86 emulator would correctly emulate >> proves that HHH (and HH) did emulate these lines correctly >> *EVEN IF IT DID THIS BY WILD GUESS* >> >> Because of this all of the calls for a full execution trace >> have never been more than sadistic trollish head games. >> > > Nope, you just don't understand what the x86 processor actually does. > I was the #1 student out of 45 students of my operating system internals class beating out three instructors of other classes. I still have this same degree of skill. x86utm <is> a multi-tasking operating system. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer