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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Hypothetical possibilities --- Complete Proof Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 06:11:59 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <v8ieu0$2pju7$2@dont-email.me> References: <v7gl30$3j9fi$1@dont-email.me> <v7led6$kacj$1@dont-email.me> <v7lsg5$luh0$5@dont-email.me> <v7nm9m$1433k$1@dont-email.me> <v7ofe7$17h8r$6@dont-email.me> <v7qfu0$1m6vf$1@dont-email.me> <v7r040$1onhe$3@dont-email.me> <v7vlbj$2ofet$1@dont-email.me> <v80a2u$2rabc$4@dont-email.me> <v825jo$39i9l$1@dont-email.me> <v82u9d$3dftr$3@dont-email.me> <v8306v$3c7$1@news.muc.de> <v83161$3dftr$11@dont-email.me> <v84udt$3rp4t$1@dont-email.me> <v8bc6j$159av$1@dont-email.me> <ea673a5b4ed43fbddf938c69bd013b0cf2ca325d@i2pn2.org> <v8c6kb$1de3l$1@dont-email.me> <9f3112e056ad6eebf35f940c34b802b46addcad4@i2pn2.org> <v8cde0$1ecgo$1@dont-email.me> <v8ctgt$1gbu7$4@dont-email.me> <v8dkc3$1kii7$3@dont-email.me> <v8e55v$1nrnh$1@dont-email.me> <v8e9vu$1oqd7$1@dont-email.me> <v8fftq$22ege$3@dont-email.me> <v8fuj5$24rl1$10@dont-email.me> <v8g1j7$24u77$6@dont-email.me> <v8g2jl$26d7d$1@dont-email.me> <v8ibf5$2p7ho$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2024 13:12:00 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="49c3b1279a491a49cbaeec74f647ee34"; logging-data="2936775"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18bKmxN0K9Be2yzC3JNmn5A" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:buctnnwcQ6UCRqIdH6dK4TCtQOo= In-Reply-To: <v8ibf5$2p7ho$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4158 On 8/2/2024 5:12 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-01 13:29:24 +0000, olcott said: > >> *Here is the full trace where nothing is hidden* >> https://liarparadox.org/HHH(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf > > On page 36 of that "trace" > [0000128c][0010379f][00000018] e8e6f4ffff call 00000777 > is not followed by the trace of 00000777. Instead the trace continues > with the next instruction after the return without any comment about > the omission. Meaning of 00000777 is not told. > The bottom line has always been (for three years now) that the fact that the next lines of DDD, (and DD) have always been the next lines that a correct x86 emulator would correctly emulate proves that HHH (and HH) did emulate these lines correctly *EVEN IF IT DID THIS BY WILD GUESS* Because of this all of the requests for a full execution trace have never been more than sadistic trollish head games. _DDD() [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 [00002182] 5d pop ebp [00002183] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution Trace Stored at:1138cc [00002172][001138bc][001138c0] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173][001138bc][001138c0] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175][001138b8][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a][001138b4][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) *The above match DDD thus proving that they were emulated correctly* *The below match DDD thus proving that they were emulated correctly* New slave_stack at:14e2ec [00002172][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175][0015e2e0][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a][0015e2dc][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer