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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 20:15:12 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org> References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 20:15:12 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="751122"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tImQjbTH6fkJfgSqI39iiM4zZgI= sha1:nWMidgFkZOy4g82/ljg2ZD8OSo8= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXQGmZ5wDW/09Ygk3nZBAMPDx7njp3NdhmIuT9KONlbqfVrK6TYlxwCiHOcd9a+rqIH1QtFYw= Bytes: 3882 Lines: 49 Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote: > badgolferman wrote on Fri, 2 Aug 2024 18:50:28 -0000 (UTC) : > >> Maybe it is and maybe it has to do with the people being employed to >> develop these things. Are they the best and brightest developers >> available, considering Apple has the money to pay them? Or are they >> DEI candidates selected to make Apple look good to shareholders and >> those who demand such things? > > All I can say is I am always reasonable in all my factual assessments. > As you know, zealots never know ANYTHING about what Apple actually does. > > At least you read about Apple outside of Apple's (brilliant) Marketing ads. > > To your concerns, all I can tell you is what is in the news about Apple's > strategic decisions, which I'm sure you can handle - but the zealots can't. > > This, from midyear 2024 says, for example the iPhone accounts for "55% > ($115.7 billion) of Apple's $210.3 billion in net sales", so it behooves us > to concentrate on what Apple has improved on technology for that iPhone. > <https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/05/07/apple-spent-183-billion-rd-in-12-years-674-billion/> > > Notice the fact that Apple spends far more on propping up stock than on R&D > (where the article uses the word "breathtaking" where the article says no > other company comes close to what Apple spends, not in R&D, but on P:E. > > What's a possible assessment takeaway from those two facts? > > Maybe: > a. Apple cares more than anyone about artificially propping up stock... > b. And, yet, Apple cares far less than most in terms of actual R&D. > > What do YOU make of those two breathtakingly different facts about Apple? > It says Apple is on track to spend $31 billion this year on R&D, underscoring its record of increases every year since 2013. That’s certainly no number to sneeze at, but unfortunately there hasn’t been much innovation to show for it over the last 5-6 years. I know some will say the mobile phone has reached its peak in features, but they’ve been saying that for a long time. A truly innovative company would create things customers didn’t know they wanted, not new colors or emojis. On the other hand they’ve spent $674 billion on stock buybacks to prop up their value. One could argue this has had a much greater effect on the livelihood and future prospects of millions of people within their portfolios. Personally I’m happy with that even though I only own their stock indirectly in ETFs and such. Certainly Apple has been a great contributor to my retirement outlook, even though the stock market has taken a dump the past few days.