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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Everyone here seems to consistently lie about this Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2024 08:48:12 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <v8lces$3f6vr$3@dont-email.me> References: <v8hf52$2jl7d$1@dont-email.me> <v8kodp$3bu46$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2024 15:48:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6697133516c971b81fd53169bb6a94ea"; logging-data="3644411"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/nsUfIFO9qfNpnD03OKG/w" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:u9lIh3Pt63COkR46F4bHsOpFEsY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v8kodp$3bu46$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2551 On 8/3/2024 3:06 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-02 02:09:38 +0000, olcott said: > >> *This algorithm is used by all the simulating termination analyzers* >> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> >> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D >> until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never >> stop running unless aborted then >> >> H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D >> specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. >> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> >> >> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH according to the x86 >> language semantics of DDD and HHH including when DDD >> emulates itself emulating DDD >> >> *UNTIL* >> >> HHH correctly determines that never aborting this >> emulation would cause DDD and HHH to endlessly repeat. > > The determination is not correct. DDD is a halting computation, as > correctely determined by HHH1 or simly calling it from main. It is > not possible to correctly determine that ha haling computation is > non-halting, as is self-evdent from the meaning of the words. > [Who here is too stupid to know that DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own return instruction?] void DDD() { HHH(DDD); return; } -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer