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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Analytic Expressions of language not linked to their semantic
 meaning are simply untrue
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2024 11:24:57 -0500
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On 8/3/2024 11:06 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 8/3/24 9:44 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/3/2024 4:50 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-02 12:19:31 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 8/2/2024 1:43 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-07-31 14:46:17 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/31/2024 3:03 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-07-30 13:40:55 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2024 2:33 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-07-29 00:44:41 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The truth about every expression of language that can be known
>>>>>>>>>> to be true on the basis of its meaning expressed in language is
>>>>>>>>>> that a lack of connection simply means untrue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does that really mean something? If the significance of the 
>>>>>>>>> lack of
>>>>>>>>> connection is restricted to sentences where the connection exists
>>>>>>>>> then it seems that you are talking about nothing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/Entries/analytic-synthetic/
>>>>>>>> I had to redefine the analytic side of the analytic/synthetic
>>>>>>>> distinction because Quine convinced most everyone that this
>>>>>>>> distinction does not exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You cannot redefine side wihout redefining the other side and the
>>>>>>> distinction itself. Is your redefinition equivalent to the one
>>>>>>> at https://plato.stanford.edu/Entries/analytic-synthetic/ or did
>>>>>>> you find out that that distincition is not the one that exists?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quine got totally confused by synonymity. He never understood
>>>>>> that the term {Bachelor} was defined in terms of
>>>>>> (~Married + Adult + Male).
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not a good idea to lie about other people.
>>>>>
>>>>> When reqding Quine, you should ask yourself why your presentation
>>>>> is much less convincing than Quine's.
>>>>
>>>> Try and show the details of how I am incorrect.
>>>
>>> What you said (quoted above) about Quine is insulting and unjustified,
>>> which alone is wrong.
>>>
>>
>> The bottom line here is that every objection that he could
>> have possibly made is addressed by this augmentation to
>> the definition of {analytic truth}
>>
>> *Original definition* of {Analytic truth}
>> Every expression of (formal or natural language) that is
>> true on the basis of its meaning...
>>
>> *Is augmented by this*
>> within a system of reasoning is only true when this
>> expression is linked by truth preserving operations to
>> its meaning within this system using this language.
>>
>> The superset of all of these systems that contains all
>> analytic truth is called {the accurate model of the actual world}.
>>
>>
>>
> And so you agree that Godel's G is True in PA.
> 

It seems that you are the only one that believes that
there are any sequence of truth preserving operations
from G to the axioms of PA showing that G is true in PA.

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