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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: George Orwell died (21-1-1950) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2024 10:34:55 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <v8lpo0$3hvba$3@dont-email.me> References: <87a5ozuj2z.fsf@parhasard.net> <875xznufak.fsf@parhasard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2024 19:34:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6f3bd7d8758ba97c90d294b030b071cc"; logging-data="3734890"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/K2ADbXaWYY5R1t6UQsxC5UgI5ZwbXoAU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:xadiN4PgCPSiEwqH/tE8Fbu2V8w= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <875xznufak.fsf@parhasard.net> Bytes: 2928 On 1/21/2024 2:55 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote: > > Ar an chéad lá is fiche de mí Eanair, scríobh Aidan Kehoe: > > > Ar an chéad lá is fiche de mí Eanair, scríobh Ross Clark: > > > > > [...] Strange fact about Orwell which came to light in a previous > > > discussion: apparently there is no extant record of his voice. This > > > despite the fact that he broadcast many talks on the BBC over a period of > > > years. Perhaps he died too soon after the advent of the tape recorder. > > > > From his biography (boarding school in Sussex, empire-builder family > > background) and from the lack of comment on his accent I imagine he spoke a > > normal-for-the-time RP. > > And I’m wrong: > > https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/no-g-men-frank-mcnally-on-the-politics-of-english-accents-1.4483443 > > ‘It was the fashion then among Britain's upper classes to sound less posh > than they were, something to which dropping Gs was vital. Not even the > highest echelons of society were immune from the pretence. There was for a > time an English accent known as "Duke of Windsor Cockney". And among the > people accused of having occasional outbreaks of it was a man otherwise > famously devoid of affectation, George Orwell. > > Mind you, Orwell’s accent seems to have been considered odd everywhere he > went, including Eton and Oxford. It must have been a product of the > empire-governing classes of which he was briefly a member before resigning to > become a misfit in other walks of life instead.’ > On 1/21/2024 2:55 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote: > -- > ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out / > How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’ > (C. Moore) -------- what's so funny or clever about this quote???