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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Who knows that DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own return instruction final state? Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2024 15:14:25 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 168 Message-ID: <v8m331$3ju7r$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8kou4$3b2ta$1@dont-email.me> <v8lcir$3f6vr$4@dont-email.me> <v8ldcs$3fcgg$2@dont-email.me> <v8lem0$3ftpo$2@dont-email.me> <735401a612caec3eedb531311fd1e09b3d94521d@i2pn2.org> <v8lkdb$3h16a$1@dont-email.me> <5ee8b34a57f12b0630509183ffbd7c07804634b3@i2pn2.org> <v8ll4v$3h8m2$1@dont-email.me> <cbde765b8f9e769930b6c8589556907a41d9c256@i2pn2.org> <v8lm80$3h8m2$3@dont-email.me> <7295d80cad171cd65cc39845362189aa88adca4f@i2pn2.org> <v8lr4u$3iali$1@dont-email.me> <c949dfc8c7354f19a3a3d31325ee9847be91f333@i2pn2.org> <v8lt59$3iali$2@dont-email.me> <74c4fe66234c5332f4ec6032bc55cc6c5f038aee@i2pn2.org> <v8lv3a$3j30t$1@dont-email.me> <9fb36dd006e570bf987f882a8310bc13e8fc04a7@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2024 22:14:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6697133516c971b81fd53169bb6a94ea"; logging-data="3799291"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19S6NWI/zvdoGyIS7we8eEh" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Eh62yUTP1/2VM1RGQI31SEn61BY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <9fb36dd006e570bf987f882a8310bc13e8fc04a7@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 7446 On 8/3/2024 3:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 8/3/24 3:06 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 8/3/2024 1:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 8/3/24 2:33 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 8/3/2024 1:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 8/3/24 1:58 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> Every DDD correctly emulated by any HHH for a finite or >>>>>> infinite number of steps never reaches its own "return" >>>>>> halt state. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nope. And you statment is just a incoherent statement, as no >>>>> partial simulaitoni for a finite number of steps is "correct". >>>>> >>>> >>>> In other words you are trying to get away with saying that >>>> when N instructions are correctly emulated by HHH that none >>>> of these correctly emulated instructions were correctly emulated. >>> >>> No, I am saying that the result is NOT the final result that the x86 >>> semantics says will happen, because the x86 semantics says it does >>> not stop therme >>> >> >> The x86 semantics says that DDD correctly emulated by HHH >> never reaches its own halt state of "return" in any finite >> or infinite number of steps. >> >> > > But only if HHH DOES correct emulation that never aborts. > The x86 semantics says that *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* *DDD correctly emulated by HHH* never reaches its own halt state of ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========