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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog Subject: Re: Ok I made a joke, sorry (e: 2nd Cognitive Turn ~~> no Bayesian Brain) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2024 23:55:58 +0200 Message-ID: <v8m91e$obh8$1@solani.org> References: <b406aa35-c39b-46f3-862f-1cc4b75143ae@googlegroups.com> <1b7ce2bd-722b-4c2e-b853-12fc2232752bn@googlegroups.com> <v6731e$6eft$1@solani.org> <v8e611$k6gf$2@solani.org> <v8m566$ofoq$1@solani.org> <v8m7f7$oaq1$2@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2024 21:55:58 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="798248"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:CzU6cSmZiic5KmoOGAVlGZ5WQGE= In-Reply-To: <v8m7f7$oaq1$2@solani.org> X-User-ID: eJwVy9EVwCAIA8CVpBKUcQyR/Udo+33vMMOilgfC0WiSJXJrwUqiXKm8cuwZGQvwrO7jz9/mGPYxjMeG9r39AoiQFl8= Bytes: 3068 Lines: 60 BTW: Friedrich Ueberweg is quite good and funny to browse, he reports relatively unfiltered what we would nowadays call forms of "rational behaviour", so its a little pot purry, except for his sections where he explains some schemas, like the Aristotelan figures, which are more pure logic of the form. And peng you get a guy talking pages and pages about pure and form: "Pure" logic, ontology, and phenomenology David Woodruff Smith https://www.cairn.info/revue-internationale-de-philosophie-2003-2-page-21.htm But the above is a from species of philosophy that is endangered now. Its predator are abstractions on the computer like lambda calculus and the Curry Howard isomorphism. The revue has become an irrelevant cabarett, only dead people would be interested in, like may father, grandfather etc... Mild Shock schrieb: > > My impression Cognitive Science was never > Bayesian Brain, so I guess I made a joke. > > The time scale, its start in 1950s and that > it is still relative unknown subject, > > would explain: > - why my father or mother never tried to > educated me towards cognitive science. > It could be that they are totally blank > in this respect? > > - why my grandfather or grandmothers never > tried to educate me towards cognitive > science. Dito It could be that they are totally > blank in this respect? > > - it could be that there are rare cases where > some philosophers had already a glimps of > cognitive science. But when I open for > example this booklet: > > System der Logic > Friedrich Ueberweg > Bonn - 1868 > https://philpapers.org/rec/UEBSDL > > One can feel the dry swimming that is reported > for several millennia. What happened in the > 1950s was the possibility of computer modelling.