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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Who knows that DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly
 reach its own return instruction final state? BUT ONLY that DDD
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On 8/3/2024 9:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 8/3/24 7:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/3/2024 5:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 8/3/24 6:15 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2024 5:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that every one of those emulation is of a 
>>>>> *DIFFERENT* input, so they don't prove anything together except 
>>>>> that each one didn't go far enough. 
>>>>
>>>> void DDD()
>>>> {
>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>>    return;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> When each HHH correctly emulates 0 to infinity steps of
>>>> its corresponding DDD and none of them reach the "return"
>>>> halt state of DDD then even the one that emulated infinite
>>>> steps of DDD did not emulate enough steps?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just says lying YOU.
>>>
>>> You got any source for that other than yourself?
>>>
>>
>> It is self-evident and you know it. I do have four
>> people (two with masters in CS) that attest to that.
>> *It is as simple as I can possibly make it*
> 
> Maybe to your mind filled with false facts, but it isn't true.
> 
>>
>> I wonder how you think that you are not swearing your
>> allegiance to that father of lies?
> 
> Because, I know I speak the truth.
> 
> Why do you not think you are lying?
> 
>>
>> Anyone that truly understands infinite recursion knows
>> that DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach
>> its own "return" final state.
> 
> Right, but for every other HHH, which the ones that answer are, it isn't 
> a fact.
> 
> 
>>
>> Surpisingly (to me) Jeff Barnett set the record straight
>> on exactly what halting means.
>>
> 
> No, there is one, and only one definition, it is a machine that reaches 
> its final state.
> 
> Note, *a machine*, not a (partial) emulation of the machine
> 

You already know that a complete emulation of a non-ending
sequence is impossible and you already acknowledged that
DDD emulated by HHH that never aborts is non-ending.



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