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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <abc@def.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Who knows that DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own return instruction final state? Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 13:59:03 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <v8oj1n$6kik$3@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8kou4$3b2ta$1@dont-email.me> <v8lcir$3f6vr$4@dont-email.me> <v8ldcs$3fcgg$2@dont-email.me> <v8lem0$3ftpo$2@dont-email.me> <735401a612caec3eedb531311fd1e09b3d94521d@i2pn2.org> <v8lkdb$3h16a$1@dont-email.me> <5ee8b34a57f12b0630509183ffbd7c07804634b3@i2pn2.org> <v8ll4v$3h8m2$1@dont-email.me> <cbde765b8f9e769930b6c8589556907a41d9c256@i2pn2.org> <v8lm80$3h8m2$3@dont-email.me> <v8n6mq$3tv07$3@dont-email.me> <v8o14v$30uf$1@dont-email.me> <950d4eed7965040e841a970d48d5b6f417ff43dc@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 20:59:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="903796c801119a1f2fd86200a8e93bf1"; logging-data="217684"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19NtvaZhDv8hVhM14BcIAIg" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:nTXfFtZvJb6VVGOu1WsDnXuA3Ag= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <950d4eed7965040e841a970d48d5b6f417ff43dc@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2774 On 8/4/2024 1:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 8/4/24 9:53 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 8/4/2024 1:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 03.aug.2024 om 18:35 schreef olcott: >> >>>> ∞ instructions of DDD correctly emulated by HHH[∞] never >>>> reach their own "return" instruction final state. >>>> >>>> So you are saying that the infinite one does? >>>> >>> >>> Dreaming again of HHH that does not abort? Dreams are no substitute >>> for facts. >>> The HHH that aborts and halts, halts. A tautology. >> >> void DDD() >> { >> HHH(DDD); >> return; >> } >> >> That is the right answer to the wrong question. >> I am asking whether or not DDD emulated by HHH >> reaches its "return" instruction. > > But the "DDD emulated by HHH" is the program DDD above, When I say DDD emulated by HHH I mean at any level of emulation and not and direct execution. DDD emulated by HHH a googleplex levels deep is included in DDD emulated by HHH. Yo keep screwing around trying to twist the meaning of the actual words that I say. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer