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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 12:24:01 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 21:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c54f23a1421c9182e975ea0b11d84f52"; logging-data="228529"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QcUQmE2A8frgUzxzGjGxGZff0jdIUDKI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:QhGsjT6mAM2nRSW+UQFOLP0HfEE= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org> Bytes: 3770 On 2024-08-02 13:15, badgolferman wrote: > Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote: >> badgolferman wrote on Fri, 2 Aug 2024 18:50:28 -0000 (UTC) : >> >>> Maybe it is and maybe it has to do with the people being employed to >>> develop these things. Are they the best and brightest developers >>> available, considering Apple has the money to pay them? Or are they >>> DEI candidates selected to make Apple look good to shareholders and >>> those who demand such things? >> >> All I can say is I am always reasonable in all my factual assessments. >> As you know, zealots never know ANYTHING about what Apple actually does. >> >> At least you read about Apple outside of Apple's (brilliant) Marketing ads. >> >> To your concerns, all I can tell you is what is in the news about Apple's >> strategic decisions, which I'm sure you can handle - but the zealots can't. >> >> This, from midyear 2024 says, for example the iPhone accounts for "55% >> ($115.7 billion) of Apple's $210.3 billion in net sales", so it behooves us >> to concentrate on what Apple has improved on technology for that iPhone. >> <https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/05/07/apple-spent-183-billion-rd-in-12-years-674-billion/> >> >> Notice the fact that Apple spends far more on propping up stock than on R&D >> (where the article uses the word "breathtaking" where the article says no >> other company comes close to what Apple spends, not in R&D, but on P:E. >> >> What's a possible assessment takeaway from those two facts? >> >> Maybe: >> a. Apple cares more than anyone about artificially propping up stock... >> b. And, yet, Apple cares far less than most in terms of actual R&D. >> >> What do YOU make of those two breathtakingly different facts about Apple? >> > > It says Apple is on track to spend $31 billion this year on R&D, > underscoring its record of increases every year since 2013. That’s > certainly no number to sneeze at, but unfortunately there hasn’t been much > innovation to show for it over the last 5-6 years. I know some will say the > mobile phone has reached its peak in features, but they’ve been saying that > for a long time. A truly innovative company would create things customers > didn’t know they wanted, not new colors or emojis. Give some recent examples of what you would term "things customers didn’t know they wanted"... ....from any smartphone manufacturer.