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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 21:46:59 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org> References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org> <v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 21:46:59 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="851456"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tXIBaWWM1FJoCUrYyAVvujh6xGI= sha1:U0JytIWc/k9G7vOjUXyXPWa2bRI= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXitAyzlGR/09YQpfpZogKDqfSkQiTWv00sLUZ+g55KuDuYJW2WJcd66AMlip26uL9DXwTjQ== Bytes: 3953 Lines: 55 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2024-08-02 13:15, badgolferman wrote: >> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote: >>> badgolferman wrote on Fri, 2 Aug 2024 18:50:28 -0000 (UTC) : >>> >>>> Maybe it is and maybe it has to do with the people being employed to >>>> develop these things. Are they the best and brightest developers >>>> available, considering Apple has the money to pay them? Or are they >>>> DEI candidates selected to make Apple look good to shareholders and >>>> those who demand such things? >>> >>> All I can say is I am always reasonable in all my factual assessments. >>> As you know, zealots never know ANYTHING about what Apple actually does. >>> >>> At least you read about Apple outside of Apple's (brilliant) Marketing ads. >>> >>> To your concerns, all I can tell you is what is in the news about Apple's >>> strategic decisions, which I'm sure you can handle - but the zealots can't. >>> >>> This, from midyear 2024 says, for example the iPhone accounts for "55% >>> ($115.7 billion) of Apple's $210.3 billion in net sales", so it behooves us >>> to concentrate on what Apple has improved on technology for that iPhone. >>> <https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/05/07/apple-spent-183-billion-rd-in-12-years-674-billion/> >>> >>> Notice the fact that Apple spends far more on propping up stock than on R&D >>> (where the article uses the word "breathtaking" where the article says no >>> other company comes close to what Apple spends, not in R&D, but on P:E. >>> >>> What's a possible assessment takeaway from those two facts? >>> >>> Maybe: >>> a. Apple cares more than anyone about artificially propping up stock... >>> b. And, yet, Apple cares far less than most in terms of actual R&D. >>> >>> What do YOU make of those two breathtakingly different facts about Apple? >>> >> >> It says Apple is on track to spend $31 billion this year on R&D, >> underscoring its record of increases every year since 2013. That’s >> certainly no number to sneeze at, but unfortunately there hasn’t been much >> innovation to show for it over the last 5-6 years. I know some will say the >> mobile phone has reached its peak in features, but they’ve been saying that >> for a long time. A truly innovative company would create things customers >> didn’t know they wanted, not new colors or emojis. > > Give some recent examples of what you would term "things customers > didn’t know they wanted"... > > ...from any smartphone manufacturer. > > > Face ID, contactless payments, QR code scanning, and other useful things like these. New colors and new emojis don’t count.