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On 2024-08-04 21:53:02 +0000, Tyrone said:
> On Aug 4, 2024 at 5:33:17 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-08-04 14:22, Tyrone wrote:
>>> On Aug 4, 2024 at 2:35:09 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> And finally, we get to the home screen where we can use the iPad,
>>>> without ever having had to sign into Apple's servers.
>>>> 
>>>> 21-Home screen.jpeg
>>>> 
>>>> Now, to be sure, there is a fairly limited set of apps that come on the
>>>> iPad; 23 apps to be exact, and some of them DO work via an AppleID, but
>>>> lots don't require one. You may be bothered about finishing setup by
>>>> adding an AppleID from time to time, but you can simply ignore those nags.
>>> 
>>> You can also say OK and it will take you to the settings. You can then cancel
>>> out and it will never ask you again.
>> 
>> So we're agreed:
>> 
>> Anyone who claims that an iOS device is just a "dumb terminal" that
>> cannot function without a connection to Apple's servers at all times...
> 
> Well, to be fair, ANY device these days can be - sort of - considered a "dumb
> terminal" because the whole point of most devices is the network 
> connection. But apparently troll boy has never actually seen a real 
> dumb terminal. It
> actually does nothing locally, it merely displays the TEXT that is coming
> across the line from the Actual Computer.
> 
> Phones/PCs/iPads etc. are way beyond "dumb". There is more local processing
> going on than in mainframes of 20 years ago.

Maybe, but the tech industry is pushing more and more back towards 
consumers having what are realistically little more than dumb terminals 
with all the apps running on the developers' servers (at a monthly 
subscription of course). Office 365 is the obvious example, but Apple 
and Adobe also have webapps of their office and creative software.

They want to do that because it makes it easier for them to enure 
everyone is using the latest version, which in turn pushes poeple into 
buying a newer device. They also do that to circumvent the pirating of 
the apps.

BUT having everything on the "cloud" is ridiculously silly and makes it 
impossible to do anything when your internet connection is down or your 
device is considered "too old".



> The network connection is needed,to get data/apps/communicate with 
> friends/etc. No one buys a phone/PC/iPad to use it as a stand-alone 
> device.
> 
> To use a very old phrase, "The Network IS The Computer".
> 
>> ...is just a huge idiot.
>> 
>> :-)
> 
> Well, he is certainly that.  And he demonstrates it every time he rambles on
> here.