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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.bio.paleontology Subject: Re: The taxonomy of Sahelanthropus tchadensis from a craniometric perspective Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 22:58:47 -0400 Organization: Eek Lines: 69 Message-ID: <v8pf57$f531$5@dont-email.me> References: <v878po$bltf$1@dont-email.me> <gpOpO.141912$VQia.104675@fx13.ams1> <v8maae$3l5tm$3@dont-email.me> <A6HrO.27424$iAEf.14919@fx10.ams1> <v8no13$6f3$1@sunce.iskon.hr> <z8KrO.58999$XOje.6699@fx13.ams1> <v8odj7$md8$1@sunce.iskon.hr> <v8oe30$msh$1@sunce.iskon.hr> <v8olav$70p1$4@dont-email.me> <v8p9tc$a7s$3@sunce.iskon.hr> <v8pcjk$c1u$1@sunce.iskon.hr> Reply-To: jtem01@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 04:58:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="66e155ee3159bbdf4160597de8efb56c"; logging-data="496737"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bn/tTR6Qxdy7IrOpwxrm1" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:CiNLclM+JMhO8dTCGX++UB97Kmg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v8pcjk$c1u$1@sunce.iskon.hr> Bytes: 4213 Mario Petrinovic wrote: > Mario Petrinovic wrote: >> Well, I like to watch real life crime cases. In some cases >> even fingerprint isn't enough. What if you match a person to the >> place, this still doesn't have to mean anything. > > Actually, see this, humans have SC fat, so this places humans > in water. Is this enough? There are some very knowledgeable lawyers who > will defend the savanna lie, not enough evidence, lol. I'm a lazy fuck. Truly am. So I'm going to give you a super simple, fast, accurate way to judge evidence: Either apply the exact same rules/interpretations to contrary evidence, or employ the exact same means of collection/interpretation to contrary evidence. Because what invariably happens in the case of pseudo science is a sliding-scale. Like how teeth alone prove Chimps were somewhere half a million years ago, but teeth can't prove hominids were in Europe 10 million years ago. Teeth aren't enough. I've pointed this out many times in my Geofacts (as opposed to artifacts) arguments. My one big or at least one of my biggest *Scores* in paleo anthropology was... 2007? Over in talk.origins, back before usenet died. I pointed out that, yes, there was interbreeding between Neanderthals and so called "Moderns." And on the other side were all these mouth breathers citing "DNA evidence." Well, there was very little published DNA work at that time, on Neanderthals, it dealt with the mtDNA and it was interpreted in the exact OPPOSITE way the famous Wilson & Cann mtDNA study interpreted it, and THAT study supposedly "Proved" Out of Africa purity and cemented the "Mitochondrial Eve" concept. See, Wilson & Cann assumed that interbreeding wouldn't necessarily show up in the mtDNA, while the Neanderthal claims were all based in the idea that interbreeding would have to be reflected in mtDNA. Opposite assumptions, opposite interpretations. So how did I know which was right? Well. The Wilson & Cann study African Americans for their African mtDNA, though there had been CENTURIES on interbreeding. The study was later replicated using purely African subjects! So it seemed very likely to be the correct assumption; that interbreeding wouldn't necessarily be reflected in the mtDNA. I took THEIR rules and I applied it to ALL THE EVIDENCE, and that disproved them. Well. Not as far as they were concerned. Nobody in the group ever admitted I was right, not even after the Neanderthal genome was published and interbreeding was 100% confirmed (as if it hadn't already been with the archeology). They just flipped poles and pretended that they've always knew interbreeding happened. -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5