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From: Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
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Subject: Re: Setting up an iPad without an AppleID
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 03:41:12 -0000 (UTC)
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Your Name wrote on Mon, 5 Aug 2024 13:29:54 +1200 :

> BUT having everything on the "cloud" is ridiculously silly and makes it 
> impossible to do anything when your internet connection is down or your 
> device is considered "too old".

I will always agree with anyone who states a logically sentient viewpoint.

And I never disagree with facts (only fools do that - that's why they're
fools).

There's a reason only the richest countries in the world can afford Apple's
privacy-robbing 24/7/365 model of no iOS functionality without Internet.

However, my reasons for not wanting to constantly log into Apple's
mothership tracking servers is well known for privacy & functionality.

Since my killfilter automatically deletes anything Alan Baker sends, I
looked up his original post using the canonical search engine for this ng.
 <http://tinyurl.com/nova-misc-phone-mobile-iphone>

 *Setting up an iPad without an AppleID*
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=16576&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#16576>

I doubt Alan Baker has tested it (as I know how desperate the zealots are
to claim that Apple products aren't innately dysfunctional devices); but
since I want to prove if Jolly Roger was correct or not, I'll try it out.
 <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UkFTfR0p5MyRakngCmF0NstYjF8OOb5j>

If Alan Baker has indeed found a way to set up an iPad without the Internet
involved (and Apple's Cupertino mothership tracking servers), I'll check it
out, and if it is indeed correct, I will commend Alan Baker for finding
what I haven't yet been able to find by searching myself on the Internet.

Kudos to Alan Baker... if it works... but let's recall Alan considers
himself a customer support computer professional and yet he has no idea
that the Usenet headers can be changed and Alan considers himself a racing
aficionado who owns BMWs and yet he has no idea what they're called in
racing circuits, etc., nor has Alan Baker ever heard of a catenary, which
is just about the most basic curve-navigating term there is... so you can
probably understand why I treat his claims with a teeny bit of caution.

You'll also note a deceitful trick that nospam & Jolly Roger both have used
multiple times in the past is to claim something that worked in iOS long
ago as working in iOS 17 (e.g., Field Test Mode), where the zealots are so
used to dealing only with uneducated people, they don't think anyone will
check it out - only to find it no longer works as they claim it does.

However, Sunday August 4th happened in 2024, and in 2019 & 2013...
 2013 <https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2013>
 2019 <https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2019>  
 2024 <https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2024>
But those images may have actually been taken in 2024 as the EXIF
information on the downloaded jpeg images shows the date as 8/4/2024.

In summary, since I am always factually grounded, I will test out the
method proposed, as I gave up on Jolly Roger's suggested iTunes clusterfuck
so the iPad is sitting here, devoid of functionality, until it is set up.

If it's true that an iOS device can be set up without the Internet, and
still not be a dumb terminal, then I will congratulate Alan Baker - but
since we know how desperate the zealots are to claim an iOS device isn't a
dumb terminal devoid of functionality if not connected to Apple servers,
let's test it out first before we make any further assessment of the facts.

I haven't looked at the images in detail yet, but I just noticed that image
6 shows the iPad is connected to the Internet - so - what is Alan Baker
trying to show?

The fact the device is connected to the Internet already proves the iOS
device can't do anything without the Internet (iOS is designed as a dumb
terminal), but I'll still check it out as it won't be using an Apple ID.