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On 2024-08-05 03:42:23 +0000, Tyrone said:

> On Aug 4, 2024 at 9:29:54 PM EDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Phones/PCs/iPads etc. are way beyond "dumb". There is more local processing
>>> going on than in mainframes of 20 years ago.
>> 
>> Maybe, but the tech industry is pushing more and more back towards
>> consumers having what are realistically little more than dumb terminals
>> with all the apps running on the developers' servers (at a monthly
>> subscription of course). Office 365 is the obvious example, but Apple
>> and Adobe also have webapps of their office and creative software.
> 
> Office 365 is for corporations, so they no longer have to deploy Office to
> 50,000 separate PCs. It is all done automagically. For consumers who might
> need Excel once a year, it is still a free download for iPads.  I bought
> Office 2021 for Windows and Mac last year, for about $80 total. No 365 here.
> 
> My Macs/PCs/iPhones/iPads are NOT "dumb terminals".

As I said above, they aren't *now*, but the tech industry is heading in 
that direction.



>> They want to do that because it makes it easier for them to enure
>> everyone is using the latest version, which in turn pushes poeple into
>> buying a newer device. They also do that to circumvent the pirating of
>> the apps.
> 
> Of course.  Corporate PCs again.

Office 365, and the Apple and Adobe webspps, are for anyone who wants 
to use them.



>> BUT having everything on the "cloud" is ridiculously silly and makes it
>> impossible to do anything when your internet connection is down or your
>> device is considered "too old".
> 
> The entire internet is in "the cloud". Is that "ridiculously silly"?  Is this
> usenet group running on your local Mac? Or mine? No, we connect to "the cloud"
> to talk here.

I meant your own documents and the apps you use to work on them all 
being stored on someone else's server.   :-\



> And how often does one's internet connection go down? Maybe a few times a year
> for maybe an hour total?   About as often as the power going out (unless a
> major storm/tornado/hurricane comes through). You can't handle that?
> 
> Even if my cable goes out, I can use my phone as a hotspot and be online again
> in minutes. BFD. Way easier than cranking up a generator when the power goes
> out, unless you have an automatic Generac system.