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From: Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Epic Games app and their gd Store page
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 07:52:18 -0700
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On 8/3/2024 9:02 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 09:26:35 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 02/08/2024 17:33, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> This is a problem that has been pointed out to Epic for YEARS, and yet
>>> they don't do anything about it. User reviews? Nope. Forums? Nada.
>>> Workshop? Missing. Streaming? Not here. Screenshots? Why bother? Being
>>> able to launch directly into your library, bypassing the store-front?
>>> Fuck no!
>>>
>>> So it is obvious that Epic isn't unaware of these issues. They
>>> certainly don't lack the skill or resources to build something better.
>>> The only conclusion is that they just don't care. None of that is
>>> important to them. Hell, why should they want you to PLAY the games?
>>> Just BUY them; that's all that is important.
>>
>> That's the part I really don't understand, if they want to rival Steam,
>> or at least take a large share of the market, then you'd think they'd do
>> at least some research into why Steam is so successful and come up with
>> the answer that it's because it's more than just a store front as it
>> also has lots of other useful features and Steam keep adding to them to
>> try and create a better experience.
> 
> Especially since so many others have tried the same and failed to
> dethrone Valve. At best they competitors have found their own tiny
> niche, but even then most of them also rely on Steam to actually drive
> customers to their games. They're just annoying middleware that no
> gamer really wants but we endure because we've no choice. But given
> the option, we turn to Steam for our purchases and not UPlay or Origin
> or BattleNet... or Epic.
> 
> 
> 
>> It just comes across as if we throw enough money at it then everything
>> will be fine.
> 
> Epic's original spiel was that they'd offer games at a lower price,
> and share more of that money with the developers. But while these are
> both admirable goals, the former never really happened (games on EGS
> aren't notably less expensive than anywhere else) and the second
> ultimately wasn't enough to counter-balance the lackluster experience
> of the client. That, followed up by Epic's tone-deaf missteps
> (especially regarding third-party exclusives) turned off a lot of
> people. And while people were happy to grab free games from Epic, it
> does come across a lot like they're trying to buy people's loyalty,
> which ironically worked against them.
> 
> The impression is that everything about EGS is self-serving Epic's own
> interests over those of the customers. Their refusal to improve their
> client in any significant way --despite this being one of the main
> complaints people have about EGS since the start-- may not be entirely
> self-interested... but it sure comes across that way. I think if Epic
> were to start rapidly adding features to the client, they'd win back a
> lot of good will (and active users). And yet they don't.

It also seems to be being used by indy devs as a sort of paid beta test. 
  Get an exclusive 1 year to Epic, release your game that needs a whole 
lot of work there, after you've built a bit of an audience and fixed 
your game up, make a real release of the game on Steam.

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-Justisaur

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