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They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote on Sun, 4 Aug 2024 22:46:03 -0400 :

>> A vaccine hijacking your cells to produce spike protein which confers
>> immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is far preferable to the actual virus hijacking your
>> cells, especially when people were immunologically naive. Nowadays either
>> the virus or the vaccine will update immunity in complex ways given
>> imprinting. I would prefer the vaccine.
> 
> The virus can stay confined to one area of the body, such as the lungs.
> The spike proteins produced as a result of the shot do NOT stay confined
> in such a manner.
> 
>> As I have never been sick from COVID, my immunity is superior to yours
>> since you actually caught it. Immunity to COVID for most is fleeting
>> because the virus evolves so readily. Our B cells evolve too due to
>> mutation of DNA and selection of better adapted variants. Again I would
>> rather this process happen in response to a vaccine than a pathogen.
> 
> Your immunity is NOT better than my natural immunity. For one, the spike
> protein mutates frequently, thereby rendering the shots ineffective after
> a few months. That's why YOU have to keep getting "boosters". MY immunity,
> however, includes recognition of other parts of the virus, including, for
> instance, the nucleocapsid protein, which changes not nearly as frequently.
> 
>> If bird/cattle H5 goes pandemic far more may die than from COVID due to
>> kill rate. States are banning masks, dumfounded dipshits will refuse
>> eventual H5 vaccines (preferring deworming meds and drinking bleach
>> instead), and a litigious powerful industry will drag its feet as people
>> drop like flies. Fun times on the horizon.
>> 
>> Antivax twits will still spread deadly lies. ExampleˇKyou.
> 
> The only people lying were those who were pro clot shot.

Facts first... 
 <https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0959440X2200118X-ga1.jpg>

There are so many things wrong (and some things are right) with this
two-way bro-science discussion that I will simply point out the facts.

The coronaviridea family causes about 1/3rd of all common colds, so
everyone has been exposed to the coronavirus family of viruses.

That's only 4 coronaviruses that cause almost 1/3rd of all common colds.
Whereas about 600 other viruses cause the other 2/3rds of common colds.

Coronavirus studies over the past 35 years on stored blood samples have
shown that, on average, people get the coronavirus 17 times in 35 years.

Hence, the immunity is not long lasting - where even the relative immunity
to the thing people call a vaccine lasts only about 8 months or so.

In general, immunity is ALWAYS stronger to the natural infection than from
the "fake" injection simply because the complexity of the response is
completely different (otherwise the thing you call a vaccine wouldn't give
you mild symptoms in the first place).

The thing you call a vaccine isn't a vaccine (it doesn't meet the CDC's own
definition of a vaccine) but in colloquial terms, it does the same thing.

The virus attaches itself like velcro using at least four receptor sites
on the cell, namely angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), Furin, Heparan
Sulfate & TMPRSS2) via a complex mechanism which is still being studied.
 <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7489987/>
 <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9257145/>
 <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-41453-w>
 <https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(21)01317-X/fulltext>
 etc.

The attachment and subsequent engulfment is complex and is constantly being
studied but essentially those four receptor sits give the virus its power.
 <https://www.pasteur.fr/en/home/press-area/press-documents/new-discovery-concerning-receptors-used-coronaviruses-enter-human-cells>

As for your "lungs", any cell with any of those four receptor sites is
vulnerable, and, in fact, your small intestine (being about six feet long)
has far more receptor sites than your nose, throat and lungs do.

However, a properly functioning immune system will generally protect people
from getting anything more than mild cold symptoms from a coronavirus
infection.

Those who have severe disease appear to be in a few at-risk categories but
there's no discounting the cytokine storm that kills some people who,
otherwise, appear to be perfectly healthy - but let's always keep in mind
that only 0.2% of the population overall dies, where those numbers are
skewed by age (the young being almost immune in terms of percentages).