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On 2024-08-06 03:14:09 +0000, Bobbie Sellers said:
> On 7/7/24 05:38, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>> On 2024-07-07, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> LED bulbs are largely a scam for bulb makers to stuff more money into
>>> their pockets.
>> 
>> Here's some realistic numbers:  I replace a 40 W incandescent bulb
>> with a LED one.  Aldi middle isle, 2 euros.  Residental power is
>> about 0.40 euros/kWh here, so the bulb will have paid for itself once
>> it has saved 2/0.40 = 5 kWh.  It produces the same illumination at
>> 1/10 of the power of the incandescent, so it saves 40 - 40/10 = 36 W.
>> 5000 Wh / 36 W = 140 h, so if used one hour each day, it will have
>> paid for itself in under five months.  If it eventually dies after
>> 10,000 hours instead of a promised 30,000, so be it.
>> 
>> You can plug in numbers that are applicable to your situation and
>> in your part of the world.
>> 
> 
> 	That is theoretical saving. Down at the Power Company the
> receipts are down due to power saving so to pay for maintenance
> and emergency repair service they must raise the price of your
> power. This is what happened in California at least in the
> San Francisco Bay Area and the Pacific Gas and Electric Company
> is now mainly a power distribution company and they are putting
> lines under ground now in sensitive areas which we are helping
> to pay for.  As well as Battery Farms to save all the wind & solar
> power generated while the sun is shining and wind is blowing for
> those times we call night.
> 	And if stops some wild fires in sensitive areas
> then it will be worth the additional cost because the day
> after the sky turns red with smoke it comes down to where
> we must breath.
> 
> 	bliss

Yep. and none of that new greeny nonsense, including LED bulbs, are 
actually any better for the environment than the old versions anyway. 
So it's simply a waste of money "look good" promotional exercise.